The EU debate - Part III

They will challenge the decision at the Supreme Court.

 

I was asking who? Who will appeal or challenge the decision?

 

In my view, Brexit, in some form, will go ahead. I don't believe that unless circumstances change dramatically that MP's would vote it down completely.

What could happen, however, is that if May tries to present a too radical, too hard a version of Brexit to parliament, she could, in theory, get voted down by her own large Pro EU contingent.

I don't believe this will be overturned on appeal. The ruling from the High Court today was unequivocal. They turned down the Gvt's assertions completely.

It will almost certainly go in front of parliament.

 

It's a good question mate. I will be contacting my local Tory MP and telling him that I expect his vote to reflect the manifesto that him and his party were elected on.

So there's the paradox, do they follow the party line that saw them elected in the first place? or do they try and vote the way they think was the majority in their constituency (some will be easy in fairness) voted on June 23rd?

I think most will follow the latter, however it won't take many Mavericks or those who don't give a **** about being re-elected to make the vote interesting

There's a 3rd element here, Parliament has the duty to make decisions that it feels are in the best interests of the country they represent, not merely to make consensus decisions. If MP's think Brexit is not in the best interests of the country, in fact quite the converse, then do they merely follow their head?

 

So far I have only seen Liam Fox come out and say there will be an appeal. I assume it will be in the name of the prime Minister's office?

 

Ahhh... fair enough

 

You're a cocksucker, that's for sure.

 

Woof! Woof! tough lad

 

Miaowww...pussy boy!...

 

Cheers fella, trying to get a handle on how this all fits together That's the trouble when there's no clear party lines and you're wondering who exactly wants what!

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/high-court-brexit-ruling-what-9186838

Take a read of this - short and to the point. Not too high brow either

 

Stop it please. You're threats are scaring me

 

That 3rd element is exactly what I focus on. It's like giving people the referendum on capital punishment. We all know the way that vote would go, but you'd hope parliament would make the ultimate decision on our behalf to sometimes save us from ourselves!

 

Exactly mate, we'll see those prepared to back that principle at some point in this process, no doubt.

Most will take the path of least resistance mind, and ensure that their nest remains feathered

 

Go to bed you silly little ****er!..

 

Which they'll lose, as today's ruling was both common sense and unequivocal

 

Can't see it happening, mate. Not unless there's a major change in current circumstances.

It can certainly be held up. And it's clear that May will have to pay special heed to her own party. Not just to idiots like Fox and Davis.

 

It'll depend on what May puts in front of them. If she's tries to blag it and provides no detail of the key details of what Brexit is going to look like in terms of their stance, then a revolt is not out of the question imo

However I do think it'll end up being passed by the Commons in some form, but whether that gets past the Lords is quite another matter

 

She's going to get **** from all angles. I don't believe any of them will explicitly try to block or stop Brexit. But they can certainly try to have it shaped to suit their own beliefs. That applies not only to that certain part of her own party, but to the opposition parties too.

She's going to get very frustrated trying to please everybody in an effort to try and get this through parliament, she may well either call it a day, or call a GE!...

 

A GE next year isn't out of the question at this point. Assuming the Supreme Court doesn't overturn today's decision, my view is that there's no way the article 50 legislation will be passed before next Autumn at the earliest.

Faced with that prospect May could well decide to call a GE if she gets hamstrung by the political mess she's helped create.

My view is that was always going to be the best outcome, the main parties could fight the election based on whether they would or wouldn't proceed with Brexit OR on exactly what grounds they'd take us out.