The EU debate - Part III

Sorry, what does this have to do with Peter Hitchens?

I find it odd that someone who isn't on the left would support such radical left wing ideas like that.

Answer the question.

Well, they are. What he said is true. All you have to do is look at the statistics.

Why is this a bad thing? Why can't they protect their own borders? Why must they continuously turn a blind eye to people breaking the law?

The points on tax, as far as I'm aware he's broken no laws.

 

Whilst i agree Trump is an absolute douche and gets a battering everytime he opens his mouth, there is clearly a media agenda against him. Many reasons such as he's openly racist, a misogynist, says whatever he thinks the lowest common denominator wants to hear etc etc. You do not hear many a bad word against Clinton in the world news even though i'm not even sure who is more evil between her and him.

So what reasons would the media be biased against him other than the above? Well he's apparantly going to change things which could be bad for many conglomerates. Likewise he probably can't be bought off so easily as he's pretty rich himself (not that the clintons aren't, but they probably have so much **** on her she'd have to comply - all my conjecture) so they definitely won't want him in. You only have to see the media treatment of Bernie Sanders who was a brilliant candidate (and again was going after the corps) compared to Clinton to see that there is clear media bias to whomever the controlling interests want in power

 

Interesting rumours from a few sources that a senior civil servant of Canadian origin no longer feels welcome after Brexit and is considering leaving in the next two years.

 

As I have said, I haven't really been following the US election, but just caught something the other day where a victim had come forward, which was followed by him saying something around when the election was over he was suing the lot of them.
Personally I think he is probably guilty as **** with regards to these sexual harassment cases, as he comes across as a prick who thinks he is gods gift to women.

 

That's not being biased against Trump, it's just reporting him being a total dick.
He's put himself forward as the leader of a cult of personality, so the whole election's become about him.
His campaign is all about him and so is Clinton's. She's happy to step back and let people have a good, long look.

The idea that he's hard to buy off because he's rich is impossible to address.
We don't know if he's rich or not, as he won't let anyone access his records.
We don't know how much of his money, if he still has any, is in Russia, but his son said that it was a lot.
He's already bent and blatantly so, so why would he stop that, just because he was elected?

Sanders got tons of good press, to the point that he's one of the most popular politicians in America.
The Democratic Party didn't want him as their candidate though, so he lost.
That's not the members, by the way. It's the people in charge.

 

No, not yet. It's heading that way though. Hence why I'm talking about curbing immigration.

A lack of reproduction equates to extinction, you probably spend more time worrying about Pandas...

Yes, I know what the demographics are, thanks. It would be nice if you actually addressed your cognitive dissonance rather than mention things that I haven't asked you about.

I'm not sure about that, I lay it at the feet of left wing governments who are pro immigration, I would argue that seeing a massive immigrant population is more of a symbolic reference towards the current state of the country.

Well you can say that, but I'll mention America, again. None of the 90% white population thought in 1965 that they'd only make up about 60% of the population in 60 years time.

 

He is a dick no doubt about it but so is Hillary.

Now i'm not saying he doesn't deserve his bad press, but you must acknowledge theres more than him being a dick in negative media coverage. The Media especially american one has an agenda and he's made too many enemies that whatever he says or does will be judged negatively compared to what there is for Hillary.

As for Sanders, he didn't get the media coverage that he needed to get votes. With respect to the the members not wanting him, he didn't get enough votes from the democratic public even before discounting the super delegates from the party.

 

He's said that he's going to sue everyone and change the laws, so that it would make it easier to do so.
A real free speech advocate!
He won't do it though, as he'd open himself up to massive counter-suits.

One journalist appears to have six witnesses backing her account of what he did.
The accusation of him going backstage at beauty pageants and eyeing up naked contestants was called a lie.
Then audio of him saying that exact thing came out from Howard Stern's show from 2005.

“I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed.”
“No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it….
"‘Is everyone OK’? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’"
"And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

The guy's a ****ing idiot.

 

He's the only sane one in the madhouse.

 

Diddums.

 

Granted, the original quote is a biased source, but the quotes they make are referenced...and I've checked not a single one.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WomenForTrump/comments/4d03qn/lets_compile_a_list_of_prowomen_prominority/

Let's compile a list of pro-women, pro-minority things Trump has done.(self.WomenForTrump)

This post is to counter all the blind character assassination against Donald Trump. I'm borrowing heavily from this post, and will happily add any contributions in the comments. Suggestions/advice always welcome!!

It will be better organized in the future.

PRO-WOMEN

• "Donald Trump employs more women than men at the upper echelons of his real estate empire, and in many cases pays them more." http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/17/attorney-trump-companies-employ-more-female-execs-than-male-video/ To add to this, "today, according to Trump’s attorney, Michael Cohen, there are more women than men holding executive positions in the Trump Organization, heading such departments as human resources, golf and hotel management, and global licensing, even though women make up just 43 percent of the overall workforce. Women who are in similar positions as men, Cohen said, 'are compensated at equal and in many cases higher pay rates.' ”
  
  
• "Black Female Executive Speaks Out About Working For Trump Family"
  
  

“I can no longer remain silent about the repeated and reprehensible attempts to align my boss and his family with racist hate-mongering groups, campaigns and messaging,” wrote Patton, director of the Eric Trump Foundation and assistant to Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr. She said the video was not part of her employment, but was triggered by the reaction Trump has received during his campaign.

“To the skeptics who will undoubtedly claim that I am doing this at the behest of the Trump family or with the promise of reward, I deliberately chose not to seek their approval nor counsel in advance to this video for fear that there would be more concern for me and its potential viral ramifications than they would be for themselves and the fact that quite simply this is the right thing to do,” said Patton, who posted the video on YouTube and has been flooded with comments on Twitter.

• Donated $25,000 to a mostly black women's basketball league after the founder was killed in the 9/11 attack. http://www.slamjamwbc.org/
  
  
• Barbara Res at 33 years old became the first woman to ever be put in charge of supervising the construction of a skyscraper, when Donald Trump hired her in 1980. A section from her book:
  

"Unfortunately, construction remains a heavily male dominated industry, but in 1972, it was a "no woman's land", and Res met resistance at every turn, in the form of discrimination, sexual harassment and intimidation. She was literally barred from the work site, a move that prevented her from advancing in her job. She quit several positions because of discrimination. Finally, she took a chance on a part time position she parlayed into a career beginner with a major Construction company in NY. After holding several "men's jobs" in contracting, Res met Donald Trump, at the Grand Hyatt project he was developing for the hotel company. She impressed him and when he had a new ground up project, he installed her as Executive in charge of Construction. The project was the world famous Trump Tower and the rest is history - a history filled with travail and triumph."

• Over two decades ago, 50 percent of the people in his business inner circle were women. He hired people regardless of whether they were men or women because he thought they were going to be the best for the job. He treated them equally. He mentored them and allowed them to advance. Many of his female employees were better paid than men (naturally, as many of them had worked for him for longer). http://news.yahoo.com/whats-up-with-donald-trump-and-the-women-not-090043983.html
  
  
• "Trump: a champion of women? His female employees think so." - Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...afac80-88da-11e5-9a07-453018f9a0ec_story.html
  
  
• "Donald Trump's History of Promoting Women" http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...d-trumps-business-history-of-promoting-women/
  
  
• Trump's spokesperson is Katrina Pierson, a black woman.
  
  
• Trump on women, from "Crippled America" (thank you, /u/Trump_wino!):
  

"Anybody who wonders how I feel about women should just take a good look at the Trump Organization. My positive feelings about women are reflected in the number of women who have worked in my organizations. I placed women in important leadership positions in the Trump Organization long before anybody else gave them that opportunity because I knew they could handle it. I was the first developer ever to put a woman in charge of a major construction project in New York City."

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"I’ve done things that nobody else has done. The 68-story Trump Tower, on Fifth Avenue right next to Tiffany’s, was the tallest entirely glass-exteriored building in Manhattan when it opened in 1983. That helped pioneer the modern luxury-building industry. One of the things I’m most proud of about that building is that the person I put in charge of overseeing construction was a 33-year-old woman. I made that decision in 1983, when the fight for gender equality in business was really beginning. None of the people who whine about the way I talk to women mention the fact that I voluntarily promoted gender equality in a male-dominated industry. The women who work and have worked for me will vouch for the fact that I was as demanding of them as I was of their male counterparts. That’s the kind of “gender equality” we need: Leadership that inspires the best in people, male or female, not a wishy-washy former secretary of state who doesn’t understand the lunacy of having her own private e-mail server."

PRO-MINORITIES (will have some overlap with pro-women section):

• Trump defended Mar-a-Lago's open door policy for people of all races in the 1990s. http://spectator.org/articles/64643/when-trump-fought-racists , http://netrightdaily.com/2016/03/tr...nd-blacks-at-palm-beach-golf-course-in-1990s/
  
  
• Trump worked with the Rainbow-PUSH coalition to bring blacks and minorities into corporate America.
  
  
  
• Trump donated to Raising Malwai, a "volunteer organization which helps orphans in one of the poorest countries in the world by providing water, food, medical care, and schooling."
  
  
• Trump donated $25,000 to a mostly black women's basketball league after the founder was killed in the 9/11 attack. http://www.slamjamwbc.org/
  
  
• Trump flew a critically ill Jewish boy in his private jet from California to New York for medical treatment. He was refused entry to an airplane because he was in a wheelchair and in the middle of chemotherapy. Trump skipped some meeting he was going to for a lending of his private jet to fly them to their destination. http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/...ick-child-so-donald-trump-came-to-the-rescue/
  
  
• Gave $10,000 to a black (I hate that I even need to point that out) bus driver who gained worldwide fame after rescuing a "suicidal" woman from a freeway bridge. http://news.sky.com/story/1162957/donald-trump-gives-hero-bus-driver-10000
  
  
• "Mr. Trump learned about Clyde Frazier Jr., a young African-American man in New York who ran the Harlem Hoops Basketball tournament in the inner city. Clyde died in the 9/11 attacks on New York, and the tournament had to be shut down. Mr. Trump told his aides to find Clyde's father and when they did, Trump donated the money to keep the tournament operating." - Jerry Falwell Jr.
  
  
• "Black Female Executive Speaks Out About Working For Trump Family"
  
  

“I can no longer remain silent about the repeated and reprehensible attempts to align my boss and his family with racist hate-mongering groups, campaigns and messaging,” wrote Patton, director of the Eric Trump Foundation and assistant to Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr. She said the video was not part of her employment but was triggered by the reaction Trump has received during his campaign.

“To the skeptics who will undoubtedly claim that I am doing this at the behest of the Trump family or with the promise of reward, I deliberately chose not to seek their approval nor counsel in advance to this video for fear that there would be more concern for me and its potential viral ramifications than they would be for themselves and the fact that quite simply this is the right thing to do,” said Patton, who posted the video on YouTube and has been flooded with comments on Twitter.

• Trump helped Jennifer Hudson after her family members was killed http://www.ijreview.com/2015/11/461...donald-trump-than-just-his-celebrity-persona/
  
  
• Trump dated black supermodel Kara Young in the early 2000's.
  
  
• Trump's spokesperson is Katrina Pierson, a black woman.
  
  
• Trump's daughter (Ivanka) and son-in-law (Jared Kushner) are Jewish.
  
  
• His wife is a (legal) immigrant.
  

PRO-LGBT

• In 2000, he declared that he supported gay anti-discrimination laws and the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell. He also advocated for “a very strong domestic-partnership law that guarantees gay people the same legal protections and rights as married people. His book, released that same year, wistfully described his dream of an America “unencumbered by racism, discrimination against women, or discrimination against people based on sexual orientation.” The details of Trump’s gay rights views are even more impressive. Trump didn’t just want states to pass their own anti-discrimination laws: He supported amending the federal Civil Rights Act of 1964 to ban sexual orientation discrimination. Like Trump’s other pro-gay positions, this stance was extremely liberal for its time. In fact, it’s strikingly progressive even today. http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/...obviously_the_most_pro_gay_gop_candidate.html
  
  
• Donald Trump changed Miss Universe rules to allow transgender contestants like Jenna Talackova to compete. http://www.ibtimes.com/miss-univers...transgender-contestants-allowed-compete-trump
  

MORE KINDNESS

• Gave to help a little girl with bone disease
  
  
  
• "Donald Trump saved my family: Widow's daughter recalls how The Donald paid off her mom's $300,000 mortgage after her father committed suicide" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...00-000-mortgage-father-committed-suicide.html
  
  
• Beauty Queen with incurable illness thanks Donald Trump for helping her, and Trump promises to help her again during rally...
  
  
  
• Donald Trump saved Ed McMahon's home from foreclosure. http://www.businessinsider.com/2008/8/donald-the-benevolent-trump-saves-ed-mcmahon-s-home
  
  
• Donald Trump pulled over his limousine and jumped out to stop a mugging. http://articles.philly.com/1991-11-20/news/25769814_1_donald-trump-marla-maples-big-bat (Not only kind, but awesome, too.)
  
  
• In 2010, Whirlpool Corporation bought Maytag and promptly shut down their Newton, Iowa facility (and moved it to Mexico). Donald Trump learned about this from a report on 60 Minutes, and proceeded to get in touch with several local businesses to help them in various ways. http://www.crowsnestpolitics.com/2015/11/20/an-evening-with-donald-j-trump/
  
  
• He has also donated over a hundred million dollars of his own money to various charities (https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/donald-trump), but still finds these opportunities to go out of his way to help individual people and families.
  
  
• When Trump decided not to fire Miss USA Tara Conner after revelations of drug use, underage drinking and sexual activities, the co-owner of the Miss USA pageant raised some eyebrows.
  
  "I've always been a believer in second chances. Tara is a good person. Tara has tried hard. Tara is going to be given a second chance," Trump said on December 19. Conner was allowed to keep her crown but had to go to rehab.
  
  http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/07/politics/donald-trump-rosie-odonnell-feud/ Rosie attacked him for this the next day, thus beginning their famous feud.
  
  

NOTABLY ENDORSED BY...

• National Black Republican Association, http://www.mediaite.com/online/donald-trump-gets-endorsed-by-national-black-republican-association/
  
  
• Americans for Legal Immigration PAC http://universalfreepress.com/2015/...ith-two-key-additions-to-make-it-even-better/ and National Border Patrol Council, the largest border patrol union in U.S. (first presidential endorsement in history) http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/30/national-border-patrol-council-endorses-donald-tru/
  
  
• Ben Carson
  
  
• Saba Ahmed, patent attorney at the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office, Democratic candidate for the 2012 Oregon special Congressional election, and founder and president of the Republican Muslim Coalition. Source
  
  
• Sajid Tarar, Pakistani-American and founder of the group American Muslims for Trump http://www.latinpost.com/articles/117110/20160301/5-latinos-who-actually-support-donald-trump.htm , http://fusion.net/story/289038/sajid-tarar-muslims-for-donald-trump/ (Video on page)
  
  
• Jesse Singh, chair of Maryland Governor's Association on South Asian Affairs and founder of the group American Sikhs for Trump http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-35758156
  
  
• West Virginia State Senator Donna J. Boley http://apps.sos.wv.gov/elections/candidate-search/
  
  
• Former Arizona State Senator Lori Klein http://blog.4president.org/2016/201...by-jeff-dewit-state-treasurer-of-arizona.html
  
  
• Former New Hampshire State Representative Paula Johnson - http://www.p2016.org/trump/trump070915prnh.html "The Trump Campaign Releases Initial List of “Women for Trump” Coalition in New Hampshire"
  
  
• Mary Hawkins Butler, Mayor of Madison, Mississippi - http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2016/mar/04/long-time-republican-charles-evers-joins-madison-m/ "Long-time Republican Charles Evers Joins Madison Mayor, Others on Trump's Mississippi Team"
  
  
• Margaret Frontera, member of the Bergen County Republican Organization convention committee http://www.northjersey.com/news/ber...late-of-candidates-for-june-primary-1.1531117
  
  
• Nancy Ruth Mace, American businesswoman and the author of In the Company of Men: A Woman at The Citadel , http://www.thestate.com/news/politi...s-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article32402991.html
  
  
• Ann Coulter ("I used to support him. Now I ferociously support him.")
  
  
  
• Pastor Darrell Scott of New Spirit Revival Center Ministries
  
  
  
• Paster Mark Burns "Black Pastor Backs Trump: 'I'm No Uncle Tom. He's A Strong Leader Who Will Bring Strength Back To America'" http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._who_will_bring_strength_back_to_america.html , Pastor Mark Burns gives speech at Trump Rally
  
  
  
• James David Manning, chief pastor at the ATLAH World Missionary Church - "Black Pastor: Donald Trump Is The Man"
  
  
  
• Kansas Hispanic and Latino American Affairs Commission director, Adrienne Foster http://www.wibw.com/content/news/De...-Hispanic-commission-to-resign-371972052.html
  
  
• Sarah Palin
  
  
  
• Day Gardner, National Black Pro-Life Union President http://www.charismanews.com/politics/primaries/56291-donald-trump-picks-up-a-surprise-endorsement
  
  
• 91-year-old conservative icon Phyllis Schlafly http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...-schlafly-makes-the-case-for-president-trump/
  

Also see: A Running List of Influential Women Who Endorse or Support Donald Trump by our own /u/swampdaisy!!

BILL CLINTON'S SEXUAL ASSAULT VICTIMS ENDORSE TRUMP...

• "Kathleen Willey Thanks Donald Trump for Highlighting Bill Clinton’s History with Women, Urges More Sexual Assault Victims to Come Forward" http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presi...ms-to-break-silence-nobody-can-touch-you-now/
  
  
• Similar to Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones is another victim of Clinton who supports Trump. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...-paula-jones-attends-little-rock-trump-rally/ Here's a video of them talking at the rally:
  
  
  
• Juanita Broaddrick, former nursing home administrator who accused Bill Clinton of rape, supports Trump http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/juanita-broaddrick-supports-trump-217446?cmpid=sf
  

“I’ve been quiet for too long, and now with the possibility of [Hillary Clinton] being the Democratic nominee and possibly president, I feel the need to get involved,” she said. "Hillary tried to silence me."

• Bill Clinton’s former Mistress, Sally Miller, endorses Trump. She speaks of fearing death for coming out with the truth about the Clintons. She wrote of her support of Trump in a Facebook post:

LOVE HIM OR HATE HIM, Trump's political run has forced Americans to see, once again, the corrupt and nasty Democrats for who they really are. Best of all, Trump forced the two-faced Republicans to come out of hiding and show their true colors.

Trump's candidacy has thrown open the outhouse door so we can "See and Smell" the vileness inside Congress.

It took Trump stepping forward and putting a spotlight on Career Politicians to reveal their lazy, shallow, and low-life ways!!!! And, it took Trump's Presidential Bid to expose the phony label "Fair and Balanced" ---so smugly flaunted by FOX NEWS.

Yes, Americans, like him or not, It takes a Donald J. Trump to sound the TRUMPET!!!!!

Trump, Trump, HE's my man....If he can't do it....nobody can!!!!!!

BONUS

• "Meet the Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus supporting Trump" http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-35758156
  
  
• Founder and President of Muslims for Progressive Values, Ani Zonneveld, supports Trump's proposed ban.
  
  
  
• Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan supports Trump on Muslim immigration http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/24/farrakhan-supports-trump-on-muslim-immigration/
  
  
• Famous video bloggers Lynnette Hardaway and Rochelle Richardson, better known by their stage names 'Diamond' and 'Silk', support Trump
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  , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_and_Silk
  
  
• MSNBC hosts get flustered after 'racist' narrative is shattered:
  
  
  
• "A new poll, which still has Trump leading the race, shows 40 percent of blacks are lining up behind Trump, as are 45 percent of Hispanics, and even nearly 19 percent of Asians. Blacks and Hispanics, in fact, even support Trump at a higher level than whites." http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/minorities-line-up-behind-donald-trump/
  
  
• "Geraldo Rivera: Trump is NOT Racist. Actually the LEAST Racist Person"
  
  
  
• Paster Dowell's reaction to abortion comment 'controversy':
  
  
  
• Sabbath Rachel Lafleur advises fellow women to support Trump:
  
  
  
• Code Pink, a women led anti-war organization, lauds Donald Trump for Iraq views: ‘I’d give him a Pink Badge of Courage’ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/16/code-pink-lauds-donald-trump-for-iraq-views-id-giv/
  

Information about Melania Trump (Thank you, /u/FierceQuacker!! source comment)

She was born in a very small town in Slovenia with a population of only about 5,000 people. She obviously knows the small town feel, even if it wasn't an American small town.

She studied Design and Architecture at the University of Ljubljana in Slovenia, long before she met Trump.

Her father owned a car/motorcycle parts shop while her mother was a fashion designer/clothes maker.

She is an intelligent, supportive woman who cares deeply for all people, not just specific beneficial (politically) groups.

Some of the charities/foundations she is/has been a part of: Breast Cancer Research Foundation, Police Athletic League (resulted in 2006 Woman of the Year), The American Red Cross (which awarded her the title Good Will Ambassador).

Driven/Ambitious, Caring, Understanding and appreciates America. I feel she even further respects America after having grown up in a communist country.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...del-White-House-favorite-s-wife-revealed.html

Ivanka Trump on her father:

"I am a female executive at his company of the highest level, and I wouldn't be the person I am today if he didn't deeply believe in opportunity for women. . . Any company who doesn't believe in equality for women -- Any company who isn't hiring women at the highest level and equally for men is not going to be relevant going forward. They're just going to fail. . . That's true of the Trump Organization, and it's true of my own company. We're really thinking about creating a culture that's conducive to women and what they need from a workplace, and it's something I spend a tremendous amount of time thinking about to enable opportunities for women who have families and to not be penalized for that, and to create cultures, which is something I learned at the Trump Organization of meritocracy. I would not be there if I wasn't able to excel."

 

Hillary's not reminding everyone that she's a dick every five minutes, though.
He stumbles from one **** up to another, while she just quietly buggers off and hopes that everyone ignores her.
She's got far more likable people campaigning on her behalf, while he's hogging a very ****ty spotlight.

Sanders got a ton of coverage, but older voters didn't seem to like him, from what I could tell.
He appealed to youngsters, but they didn't vote, while the older voters went out and voted for Clinton.
Probably something to do with the whole socialism and America thing, I'd have thought.

 

Do you honestly think that anyone's going to read all of that?

 

wow i cant believe how evil racist right wing sexist misogynist homophobic transphobic literally hitler this post is!!

 

Given you haven't noticed Hillary flip flopping and making a fool of herself as well as being a global threat, I doubt you read much that you don't think will add to your preconceptions.

 

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You've demonstrated that exact mindset on this thread, so I can't say that I'm surprised that you've adopted that Trump tactic.
He accuses everyone of doing dubious things, only to get caught having done it himself every time.

You've posted a spam posting from Trump's ultra-moderated safe space, where no dissent is allowed.
That's not me making an accusation, by the way. It's one of their rules.
Why would anyone take the time to go through that ton of material, when it's bound to be ****?

We know that Trump's a bigot. He's absolutely open about it.
Attempting to claim otherwise just makes you look like one, too.

 

That's just more rhetoric.

 

You've admitted that you haven't even attempted to see if anything on that list is true, so why should anyone else take it seriously?
I doubt that you've even read it, to be honest.

Your pathetic non-answer is just another example of you having nothing to say that's not propaganda, frankly.

 

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