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The EU debate - Part III

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Jürgenmeiʃter, Sep 6, 2016.

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  1. pieguts

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    Sorry Spain but I still think your missing the point. I don't for one minute disagree with the comments you make. You have far more knowledge and experience than I will ever have, on the workings of financial sectors, and every previous indicator would suggest your claims will come true.
    However, how close to the truth your comments will prove to be, are opionions and conjecture at this moment. Up until it happens it cannot be described as fact.
     
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    People who are anti racist in America right now are ****ed. Neither candidate is a good choice. I would probably abstain if I were a US citizen. Hillary is borderline evil but i just couldn't bring myself to vote for someone as blatantly stupid and ill equipped as Trump.

    Sorry state of affairs.

    Its not just racism though, the republican parties stance on abortion, gun control (or lack thereof), the war on terror, marijuana legalisation, all batshit.
     
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    I feel exactly the same
     
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    As I've said, and I stick by, if nothing changes those events will occur. They will be virtually unavoidable!...
     
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  5. pieguts

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    Again I don't disagree with this, just not factual at the moment.
     
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    The Republicans are actively attempting to suppress black voters right now.
    They got slapped down by a judge for attempting to do it in this election.
    https://www.thenation.com/article/t...g-law-was-just-struck-down-in-north-carolina/
     
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    So, in conclusion, parties obviously do evolve over time.
     
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    <laugh>

    Hoisted by his own petard....again.
     
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    They have to, look at modern Labour, they had to change from left wing no chance of winning to Tory light "New Labour" back to no chance of winning left wing Labour.
     
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    Pete and Dull won't like you going off message Kustard.
     
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    I'm not disagreeing. Just saying it for the benefit of those who have argued the opposite
     
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    Smith probably would've won anyway, if he hadn't died.
    Black Wednesday, the Tory kippers, rail privatisation and a bunch of scandals, plus years of crap would've seen to that.
    Blair simply made it so that left wingers had nobody to vote for.
     
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  13. DMD

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    Have no doubt, Clinton is beyond your borderline, and will escalate the war on terror, and take Obama's policies of threatening and encircling China as well as Russia to the next inevitable level. If Trump sticks to his word, his policies will bring a more settled global future.

    Clinton is an advocate of earlier Democrat Planned Parenthood policies on abortion, where they were pushed hard in black areas, with the backing of Clinton idols like Margaret Stanger, who has been associated with eugenics as well as the KKK. Both eras have been investigated for organ harvesting under the scheme.

    Clinton has spoken of pride of being a Goldwater girl. Goldwater voted against the Civil Rights Act. And some said that Goldwater wanted to re-segregate the United States

    Gun control is a tricky one particularly for us non-Americans, the democrats pushed against the second amendment partially as they didn't want blacks having guns. Black republicans wanted the second amendment to protect them against the KKK democrats. Clinton will say whatever she thinks the audience wants to hear, because she's got access to her own big guns whatever the law says. If I run someone over, nobody blames the car, shoot someone and people blame guns. For me, arguing about owning guns ignores the deeper problems in a culture that seems to ignore the cultural 'need' for so many to want to. Guns are a symptom, not the end cause. The focus needs to be on the cause.

    What America needs is someone in charge from outside the normal system, to effectively put it in a sack and shake it.

    There's no doubting Trump has faults, but they pale into insignificance if you look into both to any depth. Clinton will be a global disaster.
     
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    You could have a wider look at that by considering the wider issues with anomalies in voter registration in America and decide it wasn't as much about race as some would like to claim. It's amazing how many dead people still vote democrat. :emoticon-0105-wink:

    There's been a recent undercover investigation about Project Veritas, which looked into the democrats paying people to disrupt republican rallies, and instigate violence, and it touched registration fraud in the programmes.
     
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    <laugh>

    Iran is a very big problem and will continue to be. But if I’m elected president, I know how to deal with trouble.

    Donald Trump
     
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    We're nearly there fellas <ok>

    Role on 5.
     
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    Apart from I totally disagree with you about just about everything you've posted. This takes the biscuit!

    . 'If Trump sticks to his word, his policies will bring a more settled global future'

    He's been a liar and a cheat his whole life. And that's going to change now??

    He's a dangerous, deeply flawed megalomaniac!
     
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    I thought that your ideas about UK politics were bad, but this is ridiculous.
    Trump's an absolute piece of ****. He's a joke candidate and his own party can't even support him any more.
    Stop reading the Express, the Mail and watching Fox News and Russia Today, for ****'s sake.

    You can't predict the effect of Trump's policies, because he doesn't bloody have any.
    All he does is spout platitudes and point fingers, while claiming that he'll do better and hire better people.
    He's got no substance whatsoever.

    You're literally pushing for a guy who's going to court for about 400 different things after this election.
    One of those cases is for raping a 13-year-old. Others are for his shady business dealings.
    It's nonsense. No dead people vote Democrat. Feel free to find examples of it, though.

    Project Veritas is basically James O'Keefe, who is a complete fraud. He's been convicted of it.
    You did see how his most recent ****storm that you're referring to has turned out, didn't you?
    http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/18/project-veritas-election-videos/

    It's a fraud being committed by a known fraudster, collaborating with Breitbart, who are part of Trump's campaign.
    You're being utterly mugged off, again.
     
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    They can learn how to present their baseline in a different manner, but the fundamentals don't alter too far. The rift in the Labour party shows that in action., with two extremes of a fundamental policy.
     
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    Supports Trump - tick

    Likes Pete's posts - tick

    Voted Leave - tick

    Has pops at Islam - tick

    Refused to challenge Zlatan, and instead challenged someone who had a go at him - tick
     
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