The EU debate - Part III

Yes but in your scenario, nobody suffers!
What good is a solution if the people you look down upon aren't somehow punished?

No good, I tell you!

 

Says the first man in British political history to create a registered political party that doesn't have a single policy

 

Maybe he should adopt the Hamster Wheel idea

 

You dont seem to understand how anything works. You think that some unemployed people should be looked after by the well off rather than getting them to work.
You can't understand a simple concept such as street cleaning.
Just face facts, you dont have the brain power to consider anything.

 

Haha

I might have to join in!

I've mixed honest posts with wum attempts today so I'm a happy man.

 

Just to give you a bit of background.

Pete posts under his real name (yes really) and we discovered he actually started his own political party (registered officially) named.....wait for it.......

The Sensible Party

 

There are however many highly qualified accountants who make loads out of tax avoidance schemes. If we paid Tax Inspectors enough we could get some of those on board and stamp those schemes out. They would need support staff of course which would create more jobs and I'n sure they would be replaced in the private sector by people using their creative powers to come up with ever more dubious schemes which of course counts as productive employment to you but is barely better than theft to me.

 

Putting your real name on a public forum is a recipe for disaster

 

If they're the sort of people choosing to be unemployed intentionally they will do the bare minimum of this "manual labour" and generally create a nuisance. It's a policy for politicians to be seen to be doing something and to placate DM readers. It achieves nothing.

 

An immediate halt to the raised retirement age would help in the short and medium term. For the long term far more government investment in education and in infrastructure will create more jobs. Leaving the EU however will not do anything to address the problem

 

So if the state provides childcare to the unemployed on this work creation scheme that will be unfair on people with low paid jobs who can't afford childcare. But if you are in favour of free/low cost universal childcare then I'm with you

 

He's got a cracking website

http://www.petersaxton.co.uk/

 

It's not the Tax Inspectors fault. It's the tax law. The laws have been changed recently. I dont get involved in tax avoidance schemes. They are just too dodgy. You can read about how HMRC are chasing a lot of footballers who signed up to schemes and they are now having to pay the tax, penalties and interest. I advise my clients on the more usual tax saving - forming a company with a payroll for shareholders is the simplest method.

 

What we currently do is pay said companies a fortune to advise Govt on tax loopholes.

Govt set about closing said loopholes

Companies go and advise clients of the new rules and create new loopholes

Rinse and repeat.

 

Did you miss the benefit sanctions if a long term unemployed person refuses to accept a job that the job centre beleive they are capable of.

By all means create extra manual labour jobs and pay these people to do it, which in return would reduce the benefits they recieve. There is no need to go down the route of forced unpaid work and it will never result in someone returning to proper work.

 

AKA tax avoidance.

Oh the irony.

 

In places like Sweden it is more prevalent. Employers over a certain size could be required to provide child care and smaller employers should be encouraged to join forced with other local small employers to provide child care. I would prefer the child care to be charged for but with subsidies or reliefs.

 

We have Pete's giant hamster wheels for all our electricity needs.

 

But plenty of the long term, know how to play the system

 

Change the system!!!!
Make them work or no benefits.