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The EU debate - Part III

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  1. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Any suggestion of individual deals is ridiculous, where's that come from mate?
     
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  2. NSIS

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    A while back now. Can't remember exactly. Kustard or one of those!...
     
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  3. Tobes

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    One of those lacking a ****ing clue then mate....
     
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  4. Stan

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    Sounds like something Kustard would say as he doesn't understand the very basics of Brexit.
     
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  5. DMD

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    The Reamainians could have swung it if they'd convinced the racists.

    On voting day, TIME joined Knight and her team of six Vote Leave volunteers in Newham where they were “knocking up” locals; urging known supporters who have not yet voted to go and cast ballots. One of the volunteers is Bishwajit Bal, a first generation immigrant from Bangladesh who moved to Newham and officially became a citizen four years ago.

    The reason why he is voting Leave: too many European immigrants. Bal says Eastern European immigrants don’t appreciate what an extraordinary opportunity they’ve been given, unlike non-EU migrants. “We helped build this country and pay taxes, they don’t respect each other.”

    With a red Union Jack draped on his soldiers, Newham local Mahyar Tousi, 29, shoves the leaflets into letter boxes as he explains that he moved to the U.K. in the early ’90s after his mother gained asylum status.

    Tousi says Europe’s open border policy has been “dangerous to refugees as well.” He believes Germany, which has taken in over 1 million asylum-seekers, has not provided adequate welfare to the new arrivals. “This is also not a fight between Europeans and non-Europeans,” he says, as he walks up to a terraced house. “This is an issue of control, where we want to have the ability to stop people with criminal records from coming in.”

    As they knock on doors, the volunteers are approached by a 47-year-old man of Nigerian descent who identified himself only as Samuel. He asks whether Britain “can really stand by ourselves, the world needs to work together now.”

    Tousi and Knight, who seemed skilled in their voluntary tradecraft having canvassed for Leave since January, explains the Leave position that the E.U. has yet to make trade deals with Africa, resulting in high tariff fees on products like coffee from the continent.

    The conversation then drifts to immigration where a now enraged Samuel, who is a mental health nurse, says he feels like a “second-class citizen in my own country” because he is unable to bring in his wife and children to the U.K. This is because he does not earn above the required threshold needed to bring over a non-E.U. spouse or children.

    The Vote Leave volunteers commiserate, suggesting that the E.U. migration policy is the cause. “I am going to vote leave,” says Samuel. “It is racist and ridiculous.” As Samuel walks away, Knight tells TIME that incidences like this happen all the time.

    Many first-generation immigrants TIME spoke to on Thursday were on the side of the canvassers. Euder Menezes, who is an E.U. citizen from Italy and thus unable to vote in the referendum, says he would vote out due to what he perceives as the British government being unable to provide new homes.

    A few doors down a shirtless Billy Simba, 41, who moved here with his wife from the Democratic Republic of Congo in 2000 and gained citizenship, says he is voting out for his children. “I am a father of two and I am voting out because… I can’t see a future for them,” he says. He is worried that more migration will cause house prices to raise even further, and cause his kids to miss out on jobs.
     
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  6. Stan

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    I hope they've been putting a few quid away to cover the higher cost of living that is right around the corner. <laugh>
     
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  7. Blueman

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    F****** hell! Is this really still going on?
     
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  8. Tiddler

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    I'd say losing our business would hurt them a great deal.
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    Whilst on your family vacation ducky, why not pay a little trip to Liechtenstein and ask them about their trade/immigration deals with the EU. <whistle>
     
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  9. Stan

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    No mate. We've exited Europe, the Empire is back up and running, only white people now get the vote in England and Pete has been made High Klansman.
     
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  10. Stan

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    So you think we'll end up on a par with Liechtenstein?
     
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  11. Tiddler

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    An Italian?French thief versus an snidey English estate agent.

    I pity the Italian/Frog.
     
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  12. Tiddler

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    Did I say that or are you trying to do a tourettes tobes impersonation?
     
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  13. Stan

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    So you're not comparing like with like?
     
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  14. Stan

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    While you were away, did Tarquin take your missus roughly in the Mini? <laugh>
     
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    Anyone havin your missus while you spend your life posting nonsense on here?
     
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  18. Stan

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    Only if they've found their way into the basement.
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    So why is the UK stock market up?
     
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