The EU debate - Part III

[DMD]

Most of what's been posted is just simple facts. Facts that you don't want to hear.

There will be a legal challenge to May planning to trigger article 50 without consulting parliament. That's a fact. The lawsuits have been in preparation for months.

The Gvt's own treasury produced those figures showing the potential loss to the economy and drop in GDP.

Just because you don't like the reality of what's happening and what is likely to happen, is not going to change anything.

Who says I don't want to hear them?

Who says I doubt it?

I'm just laughing at the duplicity of some of the so called facts.

 

[Tobes]

It's hard to keep up on here, what with some lauding the legal challenge that'll stall or prevent it and saying the finance houses are leaving despite this, so seemingly have no confidence in the legal challenge, and all when sod all has actually happened so far.

Such a flimsy system is better off dismantled and replaced with something more robust and with less excitable reactionaries involved.

So you're advocating us departing not only from the EU but from a free market economy?

Shall we aim for subsistence farming and trade in goats?

What we're seeing isn't some mystery, it's global business and the markets reacting to events.

The pound has tanked post the seeming insistence of the Tories to put immigration before the economy and thus take the hard brexit route. As a result our currency is seen as a poor long term bet and the markets are bailing out of it.

Business hated uncertainty and plans accordingly, they've seemingly taken May's words as being warning enough that we could lose our single market access and are therefore being risk averse by reacting to that seemingly strong possibility now.

None of this is rocket science and it was all predicted prior to the referendum.

The issue of the commons / Lords vote is a side show, and doesn't counter the risk currently perceived in both the manufacturing and financial sectors.

 

[DMD]

So you're advocating us departing not only from the EU but from a free market economy?

Shall we aim for subsistence farming and trade in goats?

What we're seeing isn't some mystery, it's global business and the markets reacting to events.

The pound has tanked post the seeming insistence of the Tories to put immigration before the economy and thus take the hard brexit route. As a result our currency is seen as a poor long term bet and the markets are bailing our of it.

Business hated uncertainty and plans accordingly, they've seemingly taken May's words as being warning enough that we could lose our single market access and are therefore being risk averse by reacting to that seemingly strong possibility now.

None of this is rocket science and it was all predicted prior to the referendum.

The issue of the commons / Lords vote is a side show, and doesn't counter the risk currently perceived in both the manufacturing and financial sectors.

Am I?

 

[Tobes]

Am I?

Seemingly yes.

Otherwise what alternative were you suggesting when you posted this?

Such a flimsy system is better off dismantled and replaced with something more robust and with less excitable reactionaries involved.

 

[DMD]

Seemingly yes.

Otherwise what alternative were you suggesting when you posted this?

Such a flimsy system is better off dismantled and replaced with something more robust and with less excitable reactionaries involved.

You're seemingly wrong.

 

[Tobes]

You're seemingly wrong.

Correct me then, what were you suggesting?

 

[DMD]

Correct me then, what were you suggesting?

That you're off on the wrong tack...again.

 

[Archers Road]

It's taken almost 30 years, but after looking at that reply, Tim Berners-Lee would surely feel his work is now worthwhile.

And Tim Brooke-Taylor will feel that he can now pass on the union jack waistcoat he used to wear on The Goodies.

 

[Tobes]

That you're off on the wrong tack...again.

Squirm alert.

I'll try again

What did this actually mean then?

Such a flimsy system is better off dismantled and replaced with something more robust and with less excitable reactionaries involved

 

[DMD]

And Tim Brooke-Taylor will feel that he can now pass on the union jack waistcoat he used to wear on The Goodies.

Seriously? You thought about that before posting it and still thought it was worth doing?

 

[DMD]

Squirm alert.

I'll try again

What did this actually mean then?

Such a flimsy system is better off dismantled and replaced with something more robust and with less excitable reactionaries involved

 

[Tobes]

And?

What system can replace the free market economy?

 

[DMD]

Squirm alert.

I'll try again

What did this actually mean then?

Such a flimsy system is better off dismantled and replaced with something more robust and with less excitable reactionaries involved

No squirming Mr Scarecrow. You're just off on the wrong tack..again.

That it's time for radical changes, as the current system will only do what it has and fluctuate from crisis to crisis.

 

[Archers Road]

Seriously? You thought about that before posting it and still thought it was worth doing?

Not for long, no. I didn't realise you placed such a high value on thinking.

 

[Tobes]

That it's time for radical changes, as the current system will only do what it has and fluctuate from crisis to crisis.

I'll ask again, what system can replace a free market economy in a solitary country operating on a global stage?

 

[Stan]

Dull Hull in full on David Icke mode.

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[The Prime Minister]

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[Archers Road]

I'll ask again, what system can replace a free market economy in a solitary country operating on a global stage?

I think you had him at goats and barter.

 

[DMD]

I'll ask again, what system can replace a free market economy in a solitary country operating on a global stage?

You didn't ask that last time, and it's not the scenario I was relating to. It's why I said you're on the wrong tack..again.

You keep on telling people what they mean, and then arguing why they can't mean it , even if they didn't, and then adding little bits to each reply instead of trying to discuss things.

 

[Tobes]

You didn't ask that last time, and it's not the scenario I was relating to. It's why I said you're on the wrong tack..again.

You keep on telling people what they mean, and then arguing why they can't mean it , even if they didn't, and then adding little bits to each reply instead of trying to discuss things.

How am I on the wrong tack?

You said;
Such a flimsy system is better off dismantled and replaced with something more robust and with less excitable reactionaries involved

Which by definition means that you're saying the current free market economy doesn't work, I simply asked you what the alternatives are, and in my original reply made a joke about subsistence faming and goat trading.

So enlighten me, what alternative to the free market economy are you advocating?