The EU debate - Part III

[DMD]

That proves nothing. Once again, they have no central fiscal control. Therefore, by simple definition, they cannot be a federal state.

The EU has certain limited fiscal powers. It has a role in deciding the level of VAT(consumption taxes) and tariffs on external trade. It also spends a budget of many billions of euros. There is furthermore a Stability and Growth Pact (SGP) among members of the Eurozone (common currency area) intended to co-ordinate the fiscal policies of member states. There's more, but I reckon that's enough.

The centralisation of fiscal policies (and other elements) varies between federations. In fact. not all federations even go by that name. It's not a rigid definition.

 

[DMD]

Bullshit! It's simple, but you try to confuse and obfuscate to try and prove the completely unprovable.

That's just whiney bollocks. I said you just get abusive when you're not right.

 

[remembercolinlee]

why was it a lie?
1 they were not in a position to make the decision
2 we will still be paying contributions for another two or more years
3 it was a suggestion that we could use the money to finance the NHS if we so decided

So wouldn't it have been better to be honest and make those 3 points...particularly the first point?

 

[NSIS]

The only whiney bollocks is coming from you.

You cannot price your pointless point because you're wrong.

The EU has never been a federal state, and if the people of Europe have their way, it never will be.

Why you persist in trying to show that it is, just confirms your ignorance and pedantry.

 

[NSIS]

The EU has certain limited fiscal powers. It has a role in deciding the level of VAT(consumption taxes) and tariffs on external trade. It also spends a budget of many billions of euros. There is furthermore a Stability and Growth Pact (SGP) among members of the Eurozone (common currency area) intended to co-ordinate the fiscal policies of member states. There's more, but I reckon that's enough.

The centralisation of fiscal policies (and other elements) varies between federations. In fact. not all federations even go by that name. It's not a rigid definition.

The EU is NOT a federal state or institution - end of!...

 

[DMD]

The only whiney bollocks is coming from you.

You cannot price your pointless point because you're wrong.

The EU has never been a federal state, and if the people of Europe have their way, it never will be.

Why you persist in trying to show that it is, just confirms your ignorance and pedantry.

You can keep ignoring the links that say otherwise, and just rely on repeating the same nonsense you have been. It doesn't seem to be making you happy though.

 

[Tiddler]

That's just whiney bollocks. I said you just get abusive when you're not right.

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[NSIS]

You can keep ignoring the links that say otherwise, and just rely on repeating the same nonsense you have been. It doesn't seem to be making you happy though.

Absolute bollocks!...

You're pathetic!...

 

[DMD]

The EU is NOT a federal state or institution - end of!...

I sense your bottom lip poking out and your foot stomping down as you typed that.

 

[NSIS]

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No need to post selfies mate. We all know you're a ****!

 

[NSIS]

I sense your bottom lip poking out and your foot stomping down as you typed that.

 

[DMD]

Absolute bollocks!...

You're pathetic!...

For replying to one with such a limited view as you, you're probably right.

 

[NSIS]

For replying to one with such a limited view as you, you're probably right.

You're a ****ing joke, mate. You think you're so clever. You're an ignorant, pedantic tosser, like your mate, fatty.

Must be a Hull trait...

 

[Tiddler]

Absolute bollocks!...

You're pathetic!...

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[DMD]

You're a ****ing joke, mate. You think you're so clever. You're an ignorant, pedantic tosser, like your mate, fatty.

Must be a Hull trait...

See, you just get abusive when you're not right.

I've said several times I'm not clever. You going for the intellect thing simply shows it's YOU that thinks they're clever.

If you really are clever, why not try discussing instead of being adversarial, it could broaden your narrow area of knowledge.

I'll stick a few more emotithings in, I know you like mentioning them.

 

[NSIS]

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That's not dogma, it's just the facts. The ****er from Hull is too pedantic and thick to accept that.

 

[NSIS]

See, you just get abusive when you're not right.

I've said several times I'm not clever. You going for the intellect thing simply shows it's YOU that thinks they're clever.

If you really are clever, why not try discussing instead of being adversarial, it could broaden your narrow area of knowledge.

I'll stick a few more emotithings in, I know you like mentioning them.

No, no, I'm right., you're a complete tosser!...

 

[Tiddler]

No, no, I'm right., you're a complete tosser!...

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[DMD]

No, no, I'm right., you're a complete tosser!...

I take you resorting to childish abuse as the realisation that you're not right...again.

 

[Tiddler]

That's not dogma, it's just the facts. The ****er from Hull is too pedantic and thick to accept that.

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