The EU debate - Part III

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Tobes said:
I see you're now modelling your posting style on Kustard, well in.

I'll take the massive swerve as you being snookered and unable to fashion a reasoned response

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I see you're still stuck with your feeble strawman style.

I'm happy to discuss things, you seem more inclined to argue. Sadly, you're not very good at it and the swerves are all yours.

That's fine, but you seem to keep trying to make assumptions about replies that simply aren't accurate, even try to change the context of replies and then try to make the argument about that. It's futile and pointless, but does seem to fool a few on here.
 
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Archers Road said:
Problem is, we've now voted to change things for the worse, economically at least. 52% of the electorate voted to leave the EU, and now our govt seems to be reading that as an overwhelming mandate to a) abandon access to the single market regardless of the cost, and b) loudly and publicly demonise all immigrants and blame all the country's problems on those nasty foreigners.

All because Cameron took a punt on there not being enough ignorant angry racists in Britain to swing a 'leave' vote.
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I absolutely agree with this, Russian roulette with the economy to satisfy what I have to believe is a very small number of racist bigots.
However, what I challenged Stan on, which seems like a lifetime ago now, is this comment that I keep hearing from a number of people that we can change things from within. My beliefs are that if we had voted to remain, then it provided a mandate for no change as we must all be happy with the EU. If we're all happy, what needs to change?
 
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petersaxton said:
I'm just watching a discussion on Daily Politics and Andrew Neil is appearing to be equating the "working class" with whether they receive free school meals.
My parents were working class and I didn't get free school meals.
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You definitely got a lot of meals.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
In what way is it narrow minded to ask people to source their claims? Laughable nonsense.

The reason that I asked is because I thought that you were talking about the Euro by mistake, which is the case.
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It's not narrow minded to ask people to source there claims, but it is narrow minded to dismiss there opinions when they decline. It's you that has mentioned the daily express, UKIP and the way I voted, just because I really can't be arsed to run off and provide the sources you so desperately crave. As I said, I don't care either way.
When I spoke around Greece's membership to the EU, I was referring to them meeting the requirements of the Euro, which I believe is a fundamental requirement that all member states and potential member states now need to meet. In terms of Greece becoming a member of EC, this was way back in the early 80's. I also believe that Turkey are conditional members of the EU now.
 
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petersaxton said:
I'm just watching a discussion on Daily Politics and Andrew Neil is appearing to be equating the "working class" with whether they receive free school meals.
My parents were working class and I didn't get free school meals.
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I don't normally resort to personal abuse based on physical characteristics, but **** me, it's hard to resist an open goal like that...<laugh>
 
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petersaxton said:
I'm just watching a discussion on Daily Politics and Andrew Neil is appearing to be equating the "working class" with whether they receive free school meals.
My parents were working class and I didn't get free school meals.
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You've certainly ****ing made up for it since!
 
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Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
I see you're still stuck with your feeble strawman style.

I'm happy to discuss things, you seem more inclined to argue. Sadly, you're not very good at it and the swerves are all yours.

That's fine, but you seem to keep trying to make assumptions about replies that simply aren't accurate, even try to change the context of replies and then try to make the argument about that. It's futile and pointless, but does seem to fool a few on here.
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Yawn, you've simply avoided the point made.

We both know why
 
pieguts said:
I absolutely agree with this, Russian roulette with the economy to satisfy what I have to believe is a very small number of racist bigots.
However, what I challenged Stan on, which seems like a lifetime ago now, is this comment that I keep hearing from a number of people that we can change things from within. My beliefs are that if we had voted to remain, then it provided a mandate for no change as we must all be happy with the EU. If we're all happy, what needs to change?
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Well it's kind of a moot point now, but I think it was common knowledge throughout Europe that the UK was and always would be an opponent of federalism. It was also common knowledge, and accepted by our partners that we would be staying well clear of the single currency for at least a few generations. The tragedy is that we have now voted to leave the EU at precisely the time we were beginning to win the arguments for a looser, more flexible and less politically centralised union
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
Yep, because it was another of your **** strawmen. <ok>
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You've answered the question by resorting to your standard MO since. So it's fine.

Your earlier admission that you're a bit thick, is probably the most accurate post you've ever made <ok>
 
Tobes said:
You've answered the question by resorting to your standard MO since. So it's fine.

Your earlier admission that you're a bit thick, is probably the most accurate post you've ever made <ok>
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It wasn't a question worth answering. Like so many of your posts, it was a piss poor attempt at bastardising a point you couldn't argue.

I'm thick, but not thick enough to fall for your **** strawmen. <ok>
 
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