The EU debate - Part II

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The Queen explains her response when asked about her use of the Royal prerogative.

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armchairblue said:
Bitter not<laugh>
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I think the only thing that people are bitter about is that the UK is now weaker and poorer. I don't know why anyone would celebrate that apart from to convince themselves and others that they were "right" but I seriously doubt that most of the Leave voters have actually got or will get what they thought they were voting for. It's easier to be stubborn than it is to be honest that you were duped and played like a simpleton.

And once again the Barnsley genius speaks for far too many people (not all Leave voters before anyone gets their knickers in a knot but he certainly speaks for Kustard, Pete and the dull Hull guy).

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The Zlatan said:
Well you can try and discredit that point as much as you wish, but you were gearing up to 'put folk like me to bed' on the very same premise. You can do it with whatever labelling you wish, I happen to believe that minor details are very important, case in point, this 'pedantic' argument has shown you to be complacent. The world is learning more about Islam everyday, those same specious arguments that worked for you 20 years ago simply won't cut it today. Many have taken to the use of the word Islamophobia, but that's not going to stand much longer either once people start to realise it's essentially an anti-blasphemy law (in a secular country) forcefully imposed on them by intimidating Islamists and their little Kaffir guard dogs (@Tobes).

I'd like to point you again towards the Pew research, your implication that the majority of these 1.6 billion people just go about their lives, by western standards, is very misleading.

No one has answered any of my questions or responded to me competently. Me saying that Islam isn't peaceful is not countered by people bringing up what Christians used to do. It's intellectual dishonesty.

Fighting at a time of invasion is carried out by the army, and there are more British born Muslims in the ranks of ISIS than there are in the British army...
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Your desire to portray the entirety of Islam as something that should be treated with distrust is the action of a bigoted, racist, ignorant prick.

You're not worth engaging with as the veil covering your bigoted agenda is tissue thin
 
Lightning Stan said:
I think the only thing that people are bitter about is that the UK is now weaker and poorer. I don't know why anyone would celebrate that apart from to convince themselves and others that they were "right" but I seriously doubt that most of the Leave voters have actually got or will get what they thought they were voting for. It's easier to be stubborn than it is to be honest that you were duped and played like a simpleton.

And once again the Barnsley genius speaks for far too many people (not all Leave voters before anyone gets their knickers in a knot but he certainly speaks for Kustard, Pete and the dull Hull guy).

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Bitter not<laugh><laugh>
 
armchairblue said:
Bitter not<laugh><laugh>
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I've profited from Brexit so on a personal level I have no need to be bitter. We did a forward purchase deal that would never have happened pre-referendum. A scared developer who basically dropped their trousers to de-risk.

I just don't think we are given the luxury of a vote to make a purely selfish decision based on fear and hatred. I accept now that I am in a minority. Still, the wife's getting a new car out of it so she's happy.
 
We've been all through this many times, both on this thread and the old closed one.

Suffice to say that those who actually thought this through and still decided that leave was the best option at this time, I disagree with you. But, if you really did consider all aspects of your decision, fair enough.

Unfortunately, far too many numbskulls, like the Barnsley bonehead, voted for all the wrong reasons. Namely, their bigotry. Or were stupid enough to believe that there actually would be £350mill pw for the NHS (yes, they do exist) Or those in places like Sunderland who thought that anything must be better than what they have now.

Sadly, for them, they're not going to get what they thought they would.
 
Lightning Stan said:
I've profited from Brexit so on a personal level I have no need to be bitter. We did a forward purchase deal that would never have happened pre-referendum. A scared developer who basically dropped their trousers to de-risk.

I just don't think we are given the luxury of a vote to make a purely selfish decision based on fear and hatred. I accept now that I am in a minority. Still, the wife's getting a new car out of it so she's happy.
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As long as the wife's a happy bunny,first things first.
 
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