Off Topic The Environment

Mexican Hornet said:
Maybe the earth is overpopulated, or we can't live in harmony with it. Probably the latter.
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Or we simply don't know how to treat it.

Like this - today is #ThylacineDay. On this day in 1936, the last known thylacine died in captivity - it should never have been allowed to get to that stage.

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Three non-political charities have all written in the strongest terms to the government about proposed changes to the protection of wildlife and their habitat. The Wildlife Trust, the RSPB and now the National Trust that between them have millions of members, are all very critical of the plans to allow uncontrolled building on land that is currently protected, and to withdraw the monies given to farmers to create special areas for our wildlife. We have seen how the rivers and streams are being polluted by deregulation, and it really needs to have as much protest as possible about the government's reckless policies.
 
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oldfrenchhorn said:
Three non-political charities have all written in the strongest terms to the government about proposed changes to the protection of wildlife and their habitat. The Wildlife Trust, the RSPB and now the National Trust that between them have millions of members, are all very critical of the plans to allow uncontrolled building on land that is currently protected, and to withdraw the monies given to farmers to create special areas for our wildlife. We have seen how the rivers and streams are being polluted by deregulation, and it really needs to have as much protest as possible about the government's reckless policies.
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I seriously doubt that protest will work with this government, they have shown multiple times that complaints/criticism mean nothing to them - like water off a duck's back. They will simply ignore them and carry on bulldozing through their plans.
 
Bolton's Boots said:
I seriously doubt that protest will work with this government, they have shown multiple times that complaints/criticism mean nothing to them - like water off a duck's back. They will simply ignore them and carry on bulldozing through their plans.
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You may well be right BB, but I believe that people should be made aware of what is going on around them. I have friends in England who "don't do politics", but still turn out to vote whenever there is an election. Not sure why, but they are tribal, and if you ask them why they support the Tories have no idea. As a teacher I am sure you must wonder did you have any effect on the way that a pupil actually thought. It is only by putting forward your view, or acting in the way you do, that someone might stop and think. Sufficient protest can have an effect in the end. Remember how the poll tax brought Thatcher down? If we care for the environment then the more people who think about what the government is doing, the better.
 
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You may well be right BB, but I believe that people should be made aware of what is going on around them. I have friends in England who "don't do politics", but still turn out to vote whenever there is an election. Not sure why, but they are tribal, and if you ask them why they support the Tories have no idea. As a teacher I am sure you must wonder did you have any effect on the way that a pupil actually thought. It is only by putting forward your view, or acting in the way you do, that someone might stop and think. Sufficient protest can have an effect in the end. Remember how the poll tax brought Thatcher down? If we care for the environment then the more people who think about what the government is doing, the better.
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My doubts about protest were really expressed against the written words you mentioned from RSPB, National Trust and Wildlife Trust. Although I wasn't around for the Poll Tax protests, I'm fairly sure they involved violence. Not something I agree with really - there was enough of that on display in many Scottish streets after the referendum eight years ago, and that was from the winning side.
 
Bolton's Boots said:
I seriously doubt that protest will work with this government, they have shown multiple times that complaints/criticism mean nothing to them - like water off a duck's back. They will simply ignore them and carry on bulldozing through their plans.
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I agree. I think they think it shows grit to ignore protest.
 
oldfrenchhorn said:
Trevaunance Cove is the main beach at St Agnes and a family best kept secret says the Cornish tourist board.

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And this is the Daily Mail's 'take' on the story - providing its readers with a quote from a non-existent former MP, a Twitter parody account in fact. You would think that the name alone would have been a big enough warning flag ..<doh>

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Bolton's Boots said:
An interesting idea from the French government - some out-of-box thinking. Shame their Westminster counterparts can only think in a fridge.

https://www.publicsenat.fr/article/...neaux-photovoltaiques-sur-les-grands-parkings
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There are lots of ideas being proposed, and some do become adopted. As usual someone had to raise the cost, but with cross party support he didn't get very far. To have a government that is really trying to address the climate problems is hopeful, and I hope others follow this example.
 
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oldfrenchhorn said:
There are lots of ideas being proposed, and some do become adopted. As usual someone had to raise the cost, but with cross party support he didn't get very far. To have a government that is really trying to address the climate problems is hopeful, and I hope others follow this example.
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You'll be lucky. Well, the Maldivians would be, l mean.
 
I have just been reading this. Germany has passed a bill forcing single-use plastic producers to help PAY for clean-ups. From 2025 they'll have to contribute to the costs to clean up plastic from its streets and parks.
Then I came across this.
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Will it change peoples habits though if companies are paying rather than the users?
 
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