Off Topic the day of the rattlesnake OCT0BER 30TH 2024

[realred1952]

We've had:-
The day of the Jackal ..... Black Friday ..... Black Monday .... and a few more!!!

Today ..... a lot of the pundits are forcasting "an historical day" in many ways, a day for whatever reasons will be marked as history takes over ..............

Already reams of comments comparisons and observations have been written or spoken. Today we will be [well after today ] able to judge the magnitude of these "first plus 100 days"..........

Already we see manifesto in tatters, lies ...deceit ... self gratification .... out of balance with reality actions ...... no plans .... NO plain and simple answer to a simple question .... a stock answer or phrase accompanying ever swerve away from not having a truthful answer to what will happen just a reference to a certain 14 years ....

JUST how deep will the deceit go to cover for the fact they took over one of the greatest countries in the world and have shown cronism in a new light ...............

ITS BUDGET DAY..... OR THE DAY "the missing 6million" have dropped us into!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[realred1952]

before the presentation started I would rate the "proposals" as an effective 3/10 When she sat down I had a figure of 5/10 after thinking it through and some of the odd bits and pieces had a inkling toward 6/10 ... some of the doubts were based on what was said and how presented swayed my judgement/ acceptance with some doubt about what they said manifesto wise.......

Enter RISHI SUNAK .......... and things I have said pointed out etc WERE pretty much exonerated ... lies cheating and fiddling ...budget = 2/10

 

[wizered]

I just think LIAR LIAR LIAR and UP UP UP and YOURS YOURS YOURS to Flip Flop and the Thief..

 

[realred1952]

I just think LIAR LIAR LIAR and UP UP UP and YOURS YOURS YOURS to Flip Flop and the Thief..

Due to circumstances beyond my control have had the last 5 hours relegated to sitting at my computer! ! !

DID watch PMQ's on TV along with the budget, but recorded the events and a few of the interviews afterwards on my computer!

The consensus seems to be very cautious and a complete betrayalas you join up the dots. I am able to watch something like the budget a detract from outside [ previous ] influence as ABOVE STATES #2

One media headline was "budget in 60 seconds".... it prompted me to recall Wiz's comment and thought 60 seconds! YOU CAN SIMPLY DO IT IN LESS THAN 10!!!!
Other than a few bar or slice charts from the ONS there was loads of references to IFS or more importantly OBR. RACHEL really must be having a bad night ....... ripped to peices firstly by Rishi.. then by around 2 or 3 of the main media interviewers, besides a number of "ministers" getting the same treatment, maybe 4 -5 of them. Plus the OBR and IFS reps giving their opinions [ or revised ].

reality is they spent hours of Parliament time and outside of parliament time slagging of "the lies / fibs" of previous toryites! AND now are guilty of the same but 10 fold worse. A couple items she brushed across were house building, commercial projects [ infra stucture and trading parks etc ] and of improvements [ rail/ roads/ schools ]
house building for example currently being built completed since July 4th and ready to go since July is around 76,000! [ previous .gov ]
laid claim to massive west midlands commercial zone [ pre budget already a tory almost completed but when challenged stated was previous .gov but needed improving]
Rail way east west already in hand and heading toward completion .. again pre .gov
Roads well a few been built / in progress / planned ... but couldnt put Labour tag on them so gave stated a big chunk for potholes!

SO YES AS THE FIRST LINE SAYS IN LESS THAN 10 SECS which = 's Total lack of political or economic knowledge and a feathering of own nest

 

[Angelicnumber16]

It was allegedly billed as a budget for growth
I think it’s the beginning of the very end of this country

 

[realred1952]

It was allegedly billed as a budget for growth
I think it’s the beginning of the very end of this country

on the allotment most of the tenants said a bad year for growth, many attempts at getting seeds to germinate and being damp etc was a bad year ........ what grew was a battle against slugs ... most tenants used a couple of containers of pellets [ now not a danger to birds etc ] looks like Rattlesnake has caught the same disease sown seeds into an environment that will be hard to combat and the results will be poor

 

[realred1952]

SO FAR 122 days in

2 tier Harmer been caught out at least 3 times on PRE ELECTION INTERVIEWS hypocrisy at its highest along with very bent truth's and lack of plans being funded

Rattlesnake Rach caught out loads on fibs and by the fiscal and OBS and BOE boss ...... lies untruth's and victimization traits! failed to do proper assessments on consequences and could go tits up for everyone

Angela deputy dawg! overlooked by 2tier Harmer for important committee saddled with an impossible task on housing.. bear in mind in first 6 month's atleast of Labours reign over 150, 000 houses and plans will be from tory era so ...1.5million more from jan 1 2025!!!! dont worry Angela you cant be fired!

Darren "loopy" Jones in charge of finances as treasury minister. looopy..why? .... well he gives an interview and torn to shreds and admits all wrong told lies and is chaos .. then does another 5 or more interviews with the same spiel and result..........
Poor Yvette ... sleepless nights? Knowing every time its bedtime a few more boat might die crossing to her promised land of free passes and nothing in place to stop them other than the Border force taxi service costing £BN's on top of the weekly bills to keep them in " luxury status" howmany more women and children might die under her watch!

History already has this in its books as the most chaotic inprofessional hand over of .gov in British history... just how much will it get we have to wait and see.

 

[realred1952]

WELL an awful lot of negativity regarding the budget ... and they still keep using £22BN AS OPPOSED to the revised sum OBR put forward of £9bn they never listen ed to facts in the past and still dont.
rather than admit it might be wrong they use the old chestnuts it isnt us its them that did it ... like it or not Austerity worked whether it was the right or wrong way to get the country back on a level playing hindsight says yes .... had we not gone through that we would currently be well over another £1,000,000,000,000 in debt instead labour moans about £9,000,000,000

BOE CONFIRMS TAKING A CHANCE ON it not going tits up!.. it was a gamble to reduce the interest rate by .25% because bonds on other .gov loans etc are now having to pay out more against a falling BOE RATE .......

 

[realred1952]

seems like she is about to revise the pension scheme ...of things! indications are in next 2weeks!

 

[realred1952]

quite a lot of activity around the rattlesnakes pension raid and stopping the fuel allowance ....

from a DWP "aide"
They added: "We are taking immediate action to turn around the dire inheritance we face — with more people living in poverty now than 14 years ago. ...
If we were not paying out paying out £10,000,000 to £15,000,000 a day [ now ] we wouldnt have so many people living in poverty..
... again different source says that the rise [ steep rise over last 3 -4 years ] is down to non working people because the illegal immigrant population is absorbing so much of the money that could be used for better things like housing for BRITISH residents. Based on landlords upping rents and councils buying up /commandeering rental property to house some 250,000 immigrants that have arrived undocumented.

further into some reading the 1.5million houses they say is to be built will not just be "the encouraged by .gov to pass the building consent" [ and doesnt actually mean they are paying for 1.5m to built ] but the hidden cost of all the infra structure behind it! And at present there is some 300,000 undocumented migrants that do not have a home/ flat so 150,000 of these dwellings will need to be supplied plus the near £400 plus pw for benefits [ bearing in mind most wont likely be in work]

WASPI when first touted it was a claim for monies in excess for about £10k has gradually been whittled down, and now the various figures are "up to£5000 or upto £3000" .
In late? 2023 the shadow labour minister for Pensions stated in the house that the tory.gov should immediately pay out £x amounts as there was no problems with paper work or the rulings governing it.
AS SOON AS THEY GET IN POWER THEY KICK IT INTO TOUCH! ... SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN IN POWER over 14,500 WASPI women have died saving them a possible £36,00,000 should they pay out in APRIL OF NEXT YEAR!! [ JUST A TIME SELECTED FROM NOW] they will save another £46,000,000