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Martin out?

  • Right now, he's worse than Guardiola

    Votes: 105 89.7%

  • Give him one more game

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • Give him until next international break

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • Stick with him, he'll turn it round

    Votes: 7 6.0%

  • No point in sacking now, wait until end of the season

    Votes: 3 2.6%
  • Total voters
    117
Che’s Godlike Thighs said:
I reckon if you put them in English football right now, then they are probably equivalent to the top 6 of the Championship. But they would eventually rise to become top 8 Prem clubs, and Celtic maybe even top 4, and win the occassional silverware.
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Libby said:
They'd eventually rise higher than that imo. Give them PL money and exposure and they'd be right up there.

It would absolutely ruin the likes of Chelsea and Spurs.
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I'd agree on that line of thought too - which is the point I was trying to make. Each season there is some expectation for them to have a bit of a European jaunt but at the moment they aren't on par with those teams and will generally lose most games outside the Scottish league so headlines like Braga stun Celtic in Europa League aren't so unusual as to be a "stunning"
 
Libby said:
I see Forest lost to our old foes Midgetland.

Ange still seems a mental appointment to me for their squad.
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Six games in, four losses and two draws. Conceded three goals in three of the games. Fans booing the manager, chanting the previous manager's name and singing 'you're getting sacked in the morning'

Just the start Mr Marinakis was looking for. What a shame <laugh>
 
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Libby said:
They'd eventually rise higher than that imo. Give them PL money and exposure and they'd be right up there.

It would absolutely ruin the likes of Chelsea and Spurs.
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They would thrive with the PL given the additional funding, and the backing of fans who aren`t necessarily motivated entirely by football. Irish/Catholic backing on one side, Unionist/Protestant backing on the other, and a lot backing from outwith these shores.
I don`t see them ever joining the English league - why would English clubs want them in, taking two of their places. Unless it was some kind of super league stunt like the `big six` tried to pull a few seasons ago.
 
I am not convinced that either Rangers or Celtic would make a significant impact in English football. Che is right to think of Rangers as a top Championship team ( obviously without Martin!) I feel Celtic would be mid table of the Prem and a bit erratic , rather like Newcastle or Villa. I could never see them challenge the likes of .City, Utd, Arsenal or Liverpool in a million years. They would push for top six one season and be involved in a relegation battle the next. Not convinced Rangers survive beyond the Championship and would be a yo-yo club at best . As for the other Scottish teams, they would be lower Championship or even League One.

The fact that Martin is hopeless in Scotland is an indication of his calibre.
 
I agree with Che at were they would be now and where they would go. Two kickers to that though might be that less success and your fan base get bored. They wouldn't be top two every year and they wouldn't get the mad amount of soft referreeing decisions that they get up north. Poor James Tavernier would have a lot less goals!!
 
The BBC article is weighted towards Rangers needing to make a change during the international break.

I cannot see how he can be retained after today. Second best to Falkirk by all accounts
 
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