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  1. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    I sorry, mate, but this is happening way below the wealth level of footballers.
     
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    Knowing a girl a long time ago who was dragged down some steps, rather kicked down them, and into some bushes and raped there is no comparison between what she went through and this case. Yet despite finger marks round her neck which were there for weeks after and the police being called by two separate people who heard her screaming from over 100 yards away he got away with it due to police and prosecution incompetence and a jury who obviously thought a girl who wasn't a virgin in her twenties was asking for it.
     
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  3. UnitedinRed

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    Ah because he was caugh on CCTV?

    righteo <ok>
     
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  4. Obadiah

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    Where did I say anyone who doesn't follow my advice is a potential rapist?
     
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  5. UnitedinRed

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    It is insulting to people like this girl that people trivialise the crime of rape and lump it all together. Absolutely shocking.

    Feminists have a lot to answer for.
     
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  6. Obadiah

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    At last its started to sink in. The jury thought that a young couple going into a hotel at 4:00am after a night on the booze where likely to be off for a shag. The woman looked like she was doing so willingly and wasn't being forced against her will, so they decided she'd consented by her actions to a night of passion with MacDonald and he was found not guilty.

    There was no such evidence for Evans and they didn't believe him when he said she consented so they found him guilty.
     
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  7. Jezz511

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    Don't... just don't.
     
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  8. UnitedinRed

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    Flimsy. Very very flimsy.

    If all crimes were prosecuted on such flimsy evidence, half the world would be doing time <ok>

    Thankfully a degree of common sense as well as evidence above and beyond 'I cant remember' or a lack of CCTV footage are required to convict people of every other crime.
     
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  9. Tobes

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    So waking up an not remembering whether you had sex or not the night before is on par with being violently raped at knifepoint?

    Have a word with yourself ffs
     
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  10. Charlie1

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    Speak to some rape victims personally. Ones that have been dragged into bushes and those who haven't. Rape has different effects on different people. Doesn't make one any better to suffer than the other.
     
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  11. Fez

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    But surely a woman traumatised after being told she had been raped would not be so glorious in her expected bounty?
     
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    Your answer to my question about what consent needs to look like included that nonsense
     
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  13. Charlie1

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    The girl might well have been better not knowing. She didn't have consentual sex did she.
     
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  14. Tobes

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    Garbage.

    Making out you've got in depth knowledge of the personal experiences of multiple rape victims, pure bullshit
     
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  15. Charlie1

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    Been a victim of either have you?
     
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  16. Fez

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    I don't know, Charlie 1, but I would seriously hope that a highly eminent barrister would advise them on what is appropriate in their statements and, probably, on the website the legal system allows a licensed offender to maintain when protesting their innocence? I may be wrong, but I hope not, else the legal system has serious problems.
     
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  17. Charlie1

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    I suggest you calm down Lily.
     
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  18. Fez

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    No, not shocking, but mistakes do happen, Charlie 1.
     
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  19. Obadiah

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    Why would she have to be traumatised? Whether she is a nice person or not is irrelevant. Same as whether I think MacDonald or Ched Evans are nice people is irrelevant.
     
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  20. Obadiah

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    That nonsense was what got MacDonald acquitted, so its good advice.
     
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