UPDATE: For those who are bothered (plus I am bored). Turns out it was a guy who had beef with a young man and a girl, he pulled out a knife and stabbed them both repeatedly, killing them. Witnesses called police during the scuffle and identified the assailant as driving a white van. Police, on their way to the scene, saw the guy driving his van a couple of streets away at speed and chased him, trying to escape, the guy mounted the curb and hit a large group of people, killing one of them and injuring 3 others. Armed police were able to quickly disable his tyres, the guy crashed into a building and tried to flee on foot where he was chased, tazed and arrested. Sounds like a domestic dispute to me, rather than anything organised or terroristic. Guy just killed two people and then killed a third in panic while fleeing and injured some others. At least they got the prick, hope they throw away the key.
If it were American police, homeboy wouldn't have made it out of that situation alive! They'd have lit his ass up.
Yeah I totally agree, I was thinking that the other day, with the guy that killed them tots in France, the French police managed to bring him down by shooting at his legs. Well that's what I heard, don't know if it was true. In both cases at least you get some chance of piecing together what went on, rather than a corpse on a slab. Although there'd be fair argument both assailants required a bullet to the head.
Aye, families sometimes want the piece of mind of knowing what happened, and why. American police aren't trained to injure, they shoot to kill. I remember when there was a mentally ill guy in some mall parking lot, this was a few years ago. He had a kitchen knife in his hand or some **** and was surrounded by about 8 cops, with their guns drawn. He motioned to one of the them with the knife and they all opened fire, forensics counted and there were about 67 shots fired or something like that, only 8 of which actually hit the guy, the rest went all over the place, some peppered other vehicles in the parking lot, about 2 dozen hit a wall, one went through a window. Its a wonder they didnt hit anyone else! I was thinking "Couldnt they have just tazed the guy and bundled on top of him" but no, they take zero chance, because US police are pussies and most are in it because US police get ridiculously high pay, benefits and pensions. Typical Lieutenants salary in the US is around 160k a year, plus full dental and medical for the family, and if you retire and go out with 30 years service you get around 100k a year pension AND get to keep most of the benefits.
pfft, if he was black he wouldnt have made it to the crime scene in his van, would probably have been pulled over for window tint or some **** and been racially profiled.
Is O'Akbar an Irish name? ... thought those ****s had packed it all in after the Good Friday Agreement? ...
Guy in Nottingham was tasered before being arrested... is it un-christian of me to think that the cops should, from a purely humane perspective, ensure his metabolic voltage levels are kept constant by going into his cell and tasering the **** out of his bollocks on the hour, every hour?
I got thinking about this, how come a guy that has killed three people, and run over several others only gets tasered? It's not a criticism of the police in this situation, I'm merely trying to understand the protocol during such events. Afterall wasn't it in London where some young black guy was being followed by cops, another car blocks off his path, next minute the young guy is dead. He hadn't killed or harmed anyone during the moments before his stop. Maybe the difference is the two policing constabularies in those two events, maybe in more recent events the cops that stopped him weren't armed with live ammo, maybe it's because they knew the offender didn't have a gun, where in the former they weren't sure, but then how could they be sure in the latter. Anyway it's the Burley Arms, and I'm sure people don't want this place going political, so I'll just leave the thought there.
Like we briefly discussed yesterday, most peoples first initial feeling is "Kill the c**t" when they hear of things like this, but its always better to apprehend a suspect and find out what is going on, motive, any other information that may be of use. Its not always the best idea to go in guns blazing. I'll give a theoretical example....A 20 year old walks into a primary school, in the UK, with a gun and shoots a bunch of 6 year olds with an illegally obtained pistol. Now your initial reaction might be that you want Armed response to light him up and kill him, but say they taze him and take him in to custody. When interviewing him they find out where he obtained his weapon and eventually after a few months of investigating are able to bring down and illegal arms empire, and therefore stop several hundred guns a year from coming into the country, guns that would have been used in crimes that would have killed countless others....and none of that would have been possible if they'd just steamed in and shot the guy dead. Now if you want to discuss whether our shooter should get the death penalty once he has been tried and convicted, that's a separate discussion and one I might agree with.
