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  1. brb

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    I think you missed my point under the link, why would drivers come here when there are also bigger shortages of drivers in Poland and after the UK the next highest is Germany. The whole of Europe is suffering shortages, I'm curious to know why Brexit or not, why drivers would cross the channel to drive for us, when there are nearer hauliers to their homeland, what part of the picture is missing here?
     
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    Poland, UK and Germany are the worst affected, but there would be plenty of drivers from other parts of the EU that I bet would be willing to come here simply because the wages would be so much better than in places like Hungary, Latvia, Romania, Lithuania etc
     
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    You've picked the likelist poorest paid countries I noticed, so what about France, Germany, Poland, why the UK?

    They weren't well paid here, we had to increase pay to keep British drivers.
     
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    They went to Germany mate .
     
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    Well Germany and Poland have the worst shortages (along with us) so that rules them out.

    So why not open up visas to drivers from those countries I mentioned ? It goes against the grain of Brexit, so I think this Govt will dig their heels in, but it's certainly a temp solution.

    I think the starting salary for UK HGV drivers can be something around £50k, so it's a good wage. But long hours and **** conditions have probably contributed to people not wanting to join the profession, along with the older drivers retiring.
     
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    why would they prefer to come here than Germany when they can stay nearer to home with the added protection of being inside the EU
     
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    What? Explain to me again why Germany and Poland are ruled out?
     
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    In terms of attracting drivers from those countries to the UK
     
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    you are missing the point which is why would drivers from the countries you listed prefer to come here than say Germany .
     
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    Why would they come here and not Poland and Germany?

    You keep on rattling about Brexit, yet for some reason by your stance the UK is more attractive to drive for, more attractive than Europe, I want you to explain why that is?
     
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    You're right. I don't think they would, unless you made the salary better than Germany.

    As you say, they also have the benefits of EU workers rights and the associated protections of being in the EU if they went to Germany.

    As I said, Brexit has exacerbated our problems. The other issues around general driver shortages seem to be european wide.
     
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    I'm not saying it is. I'm saying we would have to make it more attractive.

    That would probably mean an even bigger increase in wages.
     
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    but it wasn't attractive in the past, we've just had to increase wages. So I'll ask yet again, why would they bypass all those European countries to come and work for a Brexit UK....the same country, government and people you keep slagging off?
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    Well that's my point, they won't. Unless we add extra incentives.
     
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    So why don't France, Germany and Poland offer extra incentives, because they are short of drivers too?
     
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    As Solid has said, they'd likely choose Germany, France or Poland as it's nearer to their homeland and offers the protection of being in the EU.

    Maybe Boris could offer drivers to come and have tea and biscuits at his gaff or something as a sweetener.
     
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    Get out while you still can, Piskie <laugh>
     
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    Workers independent republic of Cornwall mate <laugh>
     
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    But they haven't chosen France, Germany or Poland, the drivers vacancies remain unfilled, so why do they remain unfilled?
     
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