The Breakfast Debate

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Can't open the doc. But I like your wrong again remark. I challenge you to point out a post where I was wrong before. I will link 100 incorrect posts of yours for every 1 of mine you can find.

Q tc disappearing til august
There is a scribt app for your phone.
 
Nope I'm too stupid to open it. I'm too stupid to get the app that opens it. I was going to ask You to tell me what's in it but then I would have to believe the opposite to be true

Maybe wj can tell me when he s got through it
Confused! <wah>

I'm a bit puzzled why it doesn't work for you. You don't need an app. It's just a link like any other. (Then again, I'm most certainly no expert, so take that with a pinch of salt! :emoticon-0126-nerd:).
 
Interesting post that LL and there is genuinely no malice in my reply because I know you like Cellino (sometimes with blind faith) and I don't (also sometimes blindly).

What your post does highlight is the stupidity of Cellinos careless approach to buying the club in the first place with lack of due dilligance and / or going into partnership (rather than buying outright) GFH who he evidently didn't know much about.

Not doing DD was a mistake by Cellino, could be because he was excited and eager to own an English football club, or he wasn't fully aware of the procedure, although I'm sure his solicitors would've informed him.

If he hadn't have just taken over the club, or 75% of it, then chances are we would probably still be owned by GFH and sinking very fast with very high debts to GFH. I suspect Bates and GFH cooked the whole thing up between'em.

When GFH were doing DD, word was GFH didn't have the money upfront and had to dive into clients invested money, DD took about 6 months from memory because they needed to scrape the money together. News articles also reported GFH were in trouble money wise back in Dubai, so the question is, where did GFH get 30 million quid to loan LUFC after paying Bates.

Cellino may have made some mistakes in buying LUFC, but the mess was already there c/o Bates and GFH......:emoticon-0148-yes:
 
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Not doing DD was a mistake by Cellino, could be because he was excited and eager to own an English football club, or he wasn't fully aware of the procedure, although I'm sure his solicitors would've informed him.

If he hadn't have just taken over the club, or 75% of it, then chances are we would probably still be owned by GFH and sinking very fast with very high debts to GFH. I suspect Bates and GFH cooked the whole thing up between'em.

When GFH were doing DD, word was GFH didn't have the money upfront and had to dive into clients invested money, DD took about 6 months from memory because they needed to scrape the money together. News articles also reported GFH were in trouble money wise back in Dubai, so the question is, where did GFH get 30 million quid to loan LUFC after paying Bates.

Cellino may have made some mistakes in buying LUFC, but the mess was already there c/o Bates and GFH......:emoticon-0148-yes:
Don't disagree at all mate and will hold my hands up and say Cellino has done some good and would prefer him over GFH and Bates. His initial hire em fire em approach and 30 Serie B players will walk this league idea was measurably incorrect. Also the taking the credit for all things good (one of the things you dislike about Redfearn) was classless.

How much of this years progress (league position and quiet Cellino) is down to him we will probably never know but progress it is.

Either way, your original article highlights the need for single, wealthy, smart ownership. Leeds United is not a toy :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
Not doing DD was a mistake by Cellino, could be because he was excited and eager to own an English football club, or he wasn't fully aware of the procedure, although I'm sure his solicitors would've informed him.

If he hadn't have just taken over the club, or 75% of it, then chances are we would probably still be owned by GFH and sinking very fast with very high debts to GFH. I suspect Bates and GFH cooked the whole thing up between'em.

When GFH were doing DD, word was GFH didn't have the money upfront and had to dive into clients invested money, DD took about 6 months from memory because they needed to scrape the money together. News articles also reported GFH were in trouble money wise back in Dubai, so the question is, where did GFH get 30 million quid to loan LUFC after paying Bates.

Cellino may have made some mistakes in buying LUFC, but the mess was already there c/o Bates and GFH......:emoticon-0148-yes:
Spot on and vie said many times, it's unlikely gfh paid many if any of the instalments to bates as they're skint. Likely scenario as the receive stage payments they'll be passed on in part to bates
 
Cellino was on the right path but didnt have the money and didnt have the brains to know when to keep his mouth shut. Yes he did some decent things but Dave Hockaday? I'll just leave that there. Darko still on gardening leave, a German manager, sacking mamagers, getting involved in the team aelection Lucy Ward, Redders, running academy down, selling top kids, bringing in coach loads of migrants telling us they are Internationals ..... best season for 12 years and Cellino was not in the media spotlight talking about the club or interffering in the team. Money provided for a manager. That Cellino is brilliant but the nutter we nearly got ....
 
Cellino was on the right path but didnt have the money and didnt have the brains to know when to keep his mouth shut. Yes he did some decent things but Dave Hockaday? I'll just leave that there. Darko still on gardening leave, a German manager, sacking mamagers, getting involved in the team aelection Lucy Ward, Redders, running academy down, selling top kids, bringing in coach loads of migrants telling us they are Internationals ..... best season for 12 years and Cellino was not in the media spotlight talking about the club or interffering in the team. Money provided for a manager. That Cellino is brilliant but the nutter we nearly got ....
You on the sherry Doc? Makes senseish but you sound more like Gloria every day!
 
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Spot on and vie said many times, it's unlikely gfh paid many if any of the instalments to bates as they're skint. Likely scenario as the receive stage payments they'll be passed on in part to bates

Skint??
They paid £100M For No1 Palace Street last year - that would buy Leeds 15 times over <laugh>
 
Cellino was on the right path but didnt have the money and didnt have the brains to know when to keep his mouth shut. Yes he did some decent things but Dave Hockaday? I'll just leave that there. Darko still on gardening leave, a German manager, sacking mamagers, getting involved in the team aelection Lucy Ward, Redders, running academy down, selling top kids, bringing in coach loads of migrants telling us they are Internationals ..... best season for 12 years and Cellino was not in the media spotlight talking about the club or interffering in the team. Money provided for a manager. That Cellino is brilliant but the nutter we nearly got ....

And how much of Cellino not being in the limelight was down to Radz muzzling him as part of the deal? Sorry, don't buy the leopard can change it's spots crap.