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Good Morning Everyone,

Whilst the likes of Cook, Mowatt, Taylor and even Phillips are enjoying first team action or more or less a weekly basis, spare a thought for poor Chris Dawson who has been rotting in the reserves.

Surely the writing mus be on the wall for the 21 year old midfielder. If he can't breakthrough a terrible Leeds midfield now, surely he has no hope.

Why, oh why have we not sent him out on loan to a league 1 club?

A season long long could be the difference between make and break.




Take a look at our promotion winning team from 2009/10

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And have a look at our current team.


Which team is stronger?
 
4-4-2 is the way to go because we don't have a Lee Chapman and Wood needs help. The big difference between the sides is the front 2 partnership, and goals scored and attempts on goal. For the last couple of seasons we don't create enough or have enough attempts. Remember Beckford needed more chances than anyone else to score but scored loads because he was given ammo and created loads of chances. Howson & Braders is ok but think we have the same now in midfield it's just the formation that's not good enough and tactics.

Chris Dawson was the best thing since sliced bread 2 seasons ago but got injured and has never made it back. Do we think that Paul Hart will be running these players now, and making recommendations to the manager. I trust his judgement and if he thinks Dawson is not good enough then we should sell him on. If PH is involved we should gradually see his players breaking through, as long as Rosler listens.
 
Morning all. Our league one outfit were stronger than current lot but were also stronger than the seven teams we've had since. It's simple mathematics. You sell your best every season and replace with garbage and that's what you end up with. At least Cellino bucked that trend but will need to invest a fortune to make us into even a top championship side again. Not what many believe I know. It'll take a lot more than another change of coach or adding a midfielder. We're a lower to mid table outfit and will remain so without big quality signings which I'm not sure Cellino has the stomach or pockets for
 
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Eire if you go man for man with the 2 sides there's no difference really, and remember Delph isn't in your promotion team? Grayson V Rosler is another one to look at
 
Doc said:
4-4-2 is the way to go because we don't have a Lee Chapman and Wood needs help. The big difference between the sides is the front 2 partnership, and goals scored and attempts on goal. For the last couple of seasons we don't create enough or have enough attempts. Remember Beckford needed more chances than anyone else to score but scored loads because he was given ammo and created loads of chances. Howson & Braders is ok but think we have the same now in midfield it's just the formation that's not good enough and tactics.

Chris Dawson was the best thing since sliced bread 2 seasons ago but got injured and has never made it back. Do we think that Paul Hart will be running these players now, and making recommendations to the manager. I trust his judgement and if he thinks Dawson is not good enough then we should sell him on. If PH is involved we should gradually see his players breaking through, as long as Rosler listens.
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Morning Doc, I loved Chappers. Real shame we let Matt Smith go.
 
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Eireleeds1 said:
Morning all. Our league one outfit were stronger than current lot but were also stronger than the seven teams we've had since. It's simple mathematics. You sell your best every season and replace with garbage and that's what you end up with. At least Cellino bucked that trend but will need to invest a fortune to make us into even a top championship side again. Not what many believe I know. It'll take a lot more than another change of coach or adding a midfielder. We're a lower to mid table outfit and will remain so without big quality signings which I'm not sure Cellino has the stomach or pockets for
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Morning Eire <ok>
 
Morning all

Lets hope our wingers can replicate Gradel/Snoddy and we are in with a chance. Big ask though. Think we need another solid CB as well, and possibly a striker! Oh and lets add a play maker whilst we are in dream land <ok>
 
good morning all i still say it's the midfield that needs sorting out ie when to help the defence when to help the attack becks and bechio scored plenty but had a good supply from m/f and look at this m/f compared to the other one no supply and no goals gradel snoddy johnson and howson all chipped in with a few just saying
 
ellandback said:
Good Morning Everyone,

Whilst the likes of Cook, Mowatt, Taylor and even Phillips are enjoying first team action or more or less a weekly basis, spare a thought for poor Chris Dawson who has been rotting in the reserves.

Surely the writing mus be on the wall for the 21 year old midfielder. If he can't breakthrough a terrible Leeds midfield now, surely he has no hope.

Why, oh why have we not sent him out on loan to a league 1 club?

A season long long could be the difference between make and break.




Take a look at our promotion winning team from 2009/10

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And have a look at our current team.


Which team is stronger?
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Heres another comparison for you to ponder over <ok>

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Last seasons WIGAN this seasons LEEDS same manager same outcome <laugh>
 
Another comparison

Last season Leeds P10 W4 D2 L4 PTS 14 Managers 3 position 11th

This season Leeds P10 W2 D5 L3 PTS 11 Managers 1 position 16th
 
bucks_is_leeds said:
Steve, when is Surbition being re-opened? Someones topped themselves and its causing havoc
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They said 2pm mate, heard it on the news this morning when making a brew. <ok>

Not turning my work phone on as it'll go crazy with the disruption emails! <yikes>

Woking to Waterloo via Wimbledon ****ed up and the Hampton Court branch as well. They normally run buses from Surbiton to HC. Imagine the Chessington brach line has been binned as well with buses running as well as per normal with fatalities. <ok>
 
bucks_is_leeds said:
Morning all

Lets hope our wingers can replicate Gradel/Snoddy and we are in with a chance. Big ask though. Think we need another solid CB as well, and possibly a striker! Oh and lets add a play maker whilst we are in dream land <ok>
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Morning Bucks, perhaps a new keeper as well....
 
patb said:
good morning all i still say it's the midfield that needs sorting out ie when to help the defence when to help the attack becks and bechio scored plenty but had a good supply from m/f and look at this m/f compared to the other one no supply and no goals gradel snoddy johnson and howson all chipped in with a few just saying
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Morning Pat, agree, Gradel, Snodds, Howson and Johnson all had an eye for goal. Last year though, so did Mowatt....
 
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