The boxing

[BigFox]

You can’t re-write history bro, Fury got up and went for Wilder in their first match after being on the receiving end of his biggest bomb, nothing sustained about it, he bossed that fight.

Wallin caught him in a clinch iirc, there was no beat-down and Fury comfortably used that match for fitness and won at a canter, prob won 10 rounds.

We each have our opinion, AJ’s weakness is on his back foot when under pressure, so expecting Fury and Steward to cross their fingers and hope to jab his head off is naive imo.

Wilder was exhausted and barely able to move in the 12th yet nearly knocked Fury out. In the Wallins match, he sustained enough damage from someone not renowned for his boxing skills that the fight was nearly called off by the doctor.

If he fights like that vs Joshua then he is done imo.

 

[BigFox]

I don’t hate the guy, I think he’s done incredibly well considering how he started out, but the ‘hate’ has probably evolved from the hype. There’s some of us that have never bought it, he’s not a GOAT, and aside from a finished Klitschko who’d not seen any action for 18 months after Fury took his belts, he’s followed the path of least resistance.

Just my view. Plus I like taking sides, Tyson is a Manchester lad who has beaten the odds to get where he is, AJ an ex-dealer who turned his life around after well, let’s not go there, but fair play to him anyway.

How can you claim Fury beaten the odds? He has taken a much, much easier path then Joshua in only facing 4 top ten ranked boxers in his entire career plus he has failed drug tests for steroids.

Fury gets given so much slack - man is a far right hypocrite who literally tried to give up his British citizenship on multiple occasions but because he gives funny interviews, is always forgiven.

 

[Tel (they/them)]

Wilder was exhausted and barely able to move in the 12th yet nearly knocked Fury out. In the Wallins match, he sustained enough damage from someone not renowned for his boxing skills that the fight was nearly called off by the doctor.

If he fights like that vs Joshua then he is done imo.

Bro he never come under any sustained beat downs in either fight, don’t move the goal posts. He won both, comfortably too. The last bit is your opinion.

How can you claim Fury beaten the odds? He has taken a much, much easier path then Joshua in only facing 4 top ten ranked boxers in his entire career plus he has failed drug tests for steroids.

Fury gets given so much slack - man is a far right hypocrite who literally tried to give up his British citizenship on multiple occasions but because he gives funny interviews, is always forgiven.

Because he was very close to suicide and come back to be a world champion, that’s beating the odds in my book.

Also beat the best man that Joshua has faced, while Wlad held all the belts and hadn’t spent 18 months eating crisps on his sofa. Beaten the bloke Hearn dodged on Joshua’s behalf, twice.

When AJ KO’s Fury you’ll have your day bro.

 

[Blueman]

I don’t hate the guy, I think he’s done incredibly well considering how he started out, but the ‘hate’ has probably evolved from the hype. There’s some of us that have never bought it, he’s not a GOAT, and aside from a finished Klitschko who’d not seen any action for 18 months after Fury took his belts, he’s followed the path of least resistance.

Just my view. Plus I like taking sides, Tyson is a Manchester lad who has beaten the odds to get where he is, AJ an ex-dealer who turned his life around after well, let’s not go there, but fair play to him anyway.

Don't ever remember AJ saying he was GOAT tbf. And Fury is a drugs cheat.

 

[Blueman]

Bro he never come under any sustained beat downs in either fight, don’t move the goal posts. He won both, comfortably too. The last bit is your opinion.




Because he was very close to suicide and come back to be a world champion, that’s beating the odds in my book.

Also beat the best man that Joshua has faced, while Wlad held all the belts and hadn’t spent 18 months eating crisps on his sofa. Beaten the bloke Hearn dodged on Joshua’s behalf, twice.

When AJ KO’s Fury you’ll have your day bro.

Who?

 

[BigFox]

Bro he never come under any sustained beat downs in either fight, don’t move the goal posts. He won both, comfortably too. The last bit is your opinion.




Because he was very close to suicide and come back to be a world champion, that’s beating the odds in my book.

Also beat the best man that Joshua has faced, while Wlad held all the belts and hadn’t spent 18 months eating crisps on his sofa. Beaten the bloke Hearn dodged on Joshua’s behalf, twice.

When AJ KO’s Fury you’ll have your day bro.

While it is commendable that Fury was able to overcome his mental health problems, it doesn't absolve him of all his other actions to me.

Also I know the heavyweight division isn't as strong as it was back in the day and neither would have a chance against the likes of Tyson and Lewis imo, but right now Joshua has fought better boxers then Fury.

Fury nearly got knocked out by Wilder and finished the Wallins fight covered in his own blood - sure he won those fights but he wasn't comfortable. I am of the opinion that he can't do that against Joshua and that his best bet is to fight behind the jab and not let him come close.

If the fight does ever happen then we shall see. Doubt it will for a long time yet until fans can fill arenas or can travel to places where they can so lets see if Usyk or whatever bum Tyson faces can do something until then.

 

[BigFox]

Anyway enough about that - next week is Canelo vs Smith. It's been announced that the winner will also get the vacant WBC super middleweight title.

What are your predictions? I will be rooting for Smith but after seeing how Canelo was able to take apart Kovalev after jumping two weight classes, I am not willing to bet on it.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

Anyway enough about that - next week is Canelo vs Smith. It's been announced that the winner will also get the vacant WBC super middleweight title.

What are your predictions? I will be rooting for Smith but after seeing how Canelo was able to take apart Kovalev after jumping two weight classes, I am not willing to bet on it.

Canelo. Can't see Smith stopping him, so he can't lose.

 

[BigFox]

Canelo. Can't see Smith stopping him, so he can't lose.

That is long and short of it. Canelo has never even been knocked down and I can't see any other way that Smith can beat him - especially given his last fight vs Ryder.

 

[Tobes]

Canelo. Can't see Smith stopping him, so he can't lose.

This ^

There’s too much money riding on the ginger Mexican and he’ll win by yet another bent points decision.

 

[Fox Mulder]

AJ is boring... Sick of him and his goody too shoes persona.. Tired of hearing his mother's philosophies .

 

[Blueman]

AJ is boring... Sick of him and his goody too shoes persona.. Tired of hearing his mother's philosophies .

 

[Tel (they/them)]

Not sure how nearly getting KO’d (but getting up from a massive bomb from the biggest puncher in boxing) by Wilder is a bad thing, but hey ho.

Neither Wilder or Wallin managed a sustained attack on Fury. That’s the end of the point.

Sitting behind a jab for 12 rounds when your opponent is prone to going west with a sustained attack, is utterly ridiculous.

 

[BigFox]

Not sure how nearly getting KO’d (but getting up from a massive bomb from the biggest puncher in boxing) by Wilder is a bad thing, but hey ho.

Neither Wilder or Wallin managed a sustained attack on Fury. That’s the end of the point.

Sitting behind a jab for 12 rounds when your opponent is prone to going west with a sustained attack, is utterly ridiculous.

You got it bang on there - neither Wilder or Wallin managed a sustained attack on Fury yet one nearly knocked him out and the other nearly got a doctors stoppage.

Nearly getting KOed in a match doesn't paint Fury in a good light as well - sure he showed fortitude in getting up but that he got into a position where biggest puncher in boxing could give a massive bomb when he was visibly exhausted and could barely move doesn't paint him in a good light.

Fury isn't known for his punching power either - he couldn't knock out Wlad while Joshua could.

Hopefully Fury will take your advice as it would make it an entertaining fight - if he does however, I would give the advantage to Joshua.

 

[Sharpe*]

60/40 in Fury's favour imo.

AJ has to knock him out otherwise he's going to be out boxed and beaten on points.

AJ has also been wobbled by Vlad, Dillian and of course Ruiz.

I know Fury is not considered a heavy puncher but I would like to see how AJ handles a few big shots when he gets tired towards the end of the fight.

 

[BigFox]

60/40 in Fury's favour imo.

AJ has to knock him out otherwise he's going to be out boxed and beaten on points.

AJ has also been wobbled by Vlad, Dillian and of course Ruiz.

I know Fury is not considered a heavy puncher but I would like to see how AJ handles a few big shots when he gets tired towards the end of the fight.

This I agree with.

If Fury goes in gungho at the beginning while Joshua is still fresh then he'll have a bad time. In the later rounds after jabbing him repeatedly and leaning on him in the clinch maybe - as long as he doesn't make the same mistake as in the first Wilder fight.

It does look like Joshua is trying to fix that obvious weakness though - he had enough energy to throw a lot of big punches at Pulev in the later rounds.

 

[Tel (they/them)]

So no sustained beat downs then, so I was right.

 

[Sharpe*]

I really don't understand the hate towards Joshua tbh. What's he done apart from win fights and titles?

It's because he's as dull as a dishwasher and has very little in the way of charisma and intelligence.

It's also because of the fake persona he puts on carefully stage managed by Eddie Hearn. All of the squeaky clean "stay safe, have a lovely Christmas - stay humble" and all that ****e makes me cringe.

All designed to make him look nicer than nice so the casuals will love him and Hearn can milk them of their money.

AJ is one big cash cow for Hearn.

Its also because of the causals who have suddenly shown an interest in boxing over the past few years and their complete buy in to the AJ cult of personality.

I've actually read people debating whether AJ is better than Mike Tyson!

 

[Blueman]

It's because he's as dull as a dishwasher and has very little in the way of charisma and intelligence.

It's also because of the fake persona he puts on carefully stage managed by Eddie Hearn. All of the squeaky clean "stay safe, have a lovely Christmas - stay humble" and all that ****e makes me cringe.

All designed to make him look nicer than nice so the casuals will love him and Hearn can milk them of their money.

AJ is one big cash cow for Hearn.

Its also because of the causals who have suddenly shown an interest in boxing over the past few years and their complete buy in to the AJ cult of personality.

I've actually read people debating whether AJ is better than Mike Tyson!

Anyone with half a brain knows he's not better than Mike Tyson. Fury thinks he's the best ever ffs.

 

[Sucky]

It's because he's as dull as a dishwasher and has very little in the way of charisma and intelligence.

It's also because of the fake persona he puts on carefully stage managed by Eddie Hearn. All of the squeaky clean "stay safe, have a lovely Christmas - stay humble" and all that ****e makes me cringe.

All designed to make him look nicer than nice so the casuals will love him and Hearn can milk them of their money.

AJ is one big cash cow for Hearn.

Its also because of the causals who have suddenly shown an interest in boxing over the past few years and their complete buy in to the AJ cult of personality.

I've actually read people debating whether AJ is better than Mike Tyson!

Tyson now in his 50s would still batter aj.

Easy