How will we have a pot to piss in in a market ruled by the bigger more successful clubs, if we're average and relegation fodder? There's no chance of us getting anything out of that market, not with the likes of Barca, Man Utd doing well over there. He's burdened us with this name chance and is now trying to buy acceptance. Hull Tigers is not Hull City.
Err why? Everything else has already changed. The name is the only constant. The history is attached to the name. Change the name you change the club and the history is lost.
I know a lot of these are old but I'd didn't know about any of them apart from Newton Heath. http://www.funtrivia.com/en/subtopics/Former-English-Football-Team-Names-331174.html
Personally, if we moved to Melton and became Melton Tigers I'd stop following/supporting the club at all and start following an AFC Wimbledon-style new Hull City.
As I said earlier to Lambrettaman, this is not a black and white situation. If City were relocated to Harrogate or somewhere that would be a massive alteration in what makes the the club what it is. If City changed their colours to say all red that is another big change but nowhere near as significant as moving location. etc, etc etc Plus all of us have different values on things as well. But to say that changing "City" to "Tigers" in the name of the Club changes the very essence of what the club is to the degree that you would consider not supporting them indicates a very childish viewpoint. Frankly it surprises me that such supporters, who presumably have years of service under their belt, would be willing to throw all that away so cheaply.
My answer is no, I will not condone the actions of the owner. Football comes in all guises so I will go locally, but at amateur level. Hull City AFC is the Football club I support, change that and the only constant is gone.
Players, managers, owners, strips, the badge (although thankfully only from a crap one back to a proper one), home ground, pretty much every member of staff at the club. All of which was covered by 'everything'.
Only the Allams are chucking something precious away, and he's making himself look like a plank doing it. And now he's trying to buy our acceptance. The fans will stick by the club, but to say it doesn't matter is a disgrace.
There is two schools of thought on here, 1) Those who think the club is bigger and more important than the name, and 2) Those who think the name is bigger and more important than the club. I'm with the 1), and want the club to prosper and develop and for the life of me cannot understand the people of 2) who say they support the club but openly state that they will stop supporting and hoping the club fails because of its name.
But those changes are all part and parcel of every football club. They are accepted by supporters. The truth is nothing has changed apart from the name.
While on the subject of name change, completely OT different country & game. The LA Lakers started out as the Detroit Gems before moving to Minneapolis & became the Lakers. Didn't know that.
Yea as they are franchises they move around a lot. I wouldnt say every team in the US has moved and changed names but the vast majority have. You even have situations where teams that moved still own the rights for the names they once used. So the Texas Rangers still own the rights for the name the Washington Senators and when Washington got a baseball team again the Rangers refused to sell them the rights so the Washington team had to make up a new name. That kind of thing happens a lot to.
All I can say is thank **** I don't support an American team, I do follow a few, but I think these days it'll take a lot of money to move them around these days.
Where did I say it didn't matter? Again, I dislike the change of name just like everyone else. I just don't regard it as something that would stop me supporting the club or disrespecting the wishes of the guy that has spent £50m of his own money saving the club. If 3 years ago, someone had said to me that I had a straight forward choice: 1) For the Club to be bought by a local businessman and he would write off all the debt but the name would have to change to Hull Tigers or 2) The club would have to be liquidated ending professional football in the city I would make the first choice every single time without a send thought.
Actually I don't think I would bother. Losing AFC from the business name is one thing, but I am not a football supporter, I am a Hull City supporter. New players, new name, new badge. Not for me. You cannot take the City out of Hull City.
How about option 3) those who say the name is the club, which makes absolute sense to me? This is exactly why ****ing about with names should be off-limits. Anyone who can't see that deserves all they get.
Strov mate,when you say i'd throw it all away so cheaply,i'm sorry man but that really pisses me off. I'll be broken hearted,and i'll never forget what we had.
But stopping going due to a name change is just biting off your nose to spite your face. By mass numbers no longer going they'd essentially (in an in-direct way) be killing off the thing they love and support (i.e. the club won't sustain its success on-field without the support off it - it would create a downward spiral). I'd much rather see continued support and the club establishing itself and continuing to improve year on year, than see East Yorkshire awash with white ****e shirts again. As I said, you can still support your team without supporting it's off-field decisions. You could easily put the shoe on the other foot and look at it from another viewpoint - people are saying those that would still go don't care enough, when the other way around it could be seen as those that would walk away due to a name change don't care, as how can they care that much about the club if they can so easily just stop going? That doesn't mean there is a right or wrong way of dealing with the situation, personally I just think in not going anymore you're punishing yourself as much as the Allams, when instead you could still go, support your team and make your feelings known, keep the 'City' chants going, not allowing it to die off.
