And that's exactly what our planned walkout is all about, those fans are right to at least try and make a diffrence and stop the club forcing its fans away and becoming more of a business. http://www.afcliverpool.tv/ AFC Liverpool is an independent football club that was set up in 2008 by Liverpool fans who were priced out of top flight football. The club is owned by the fans and run by the fans. Anyone can become a member and have an equal vote on how the club develops. One member, one vote. AFC Liverpool is a genuine, not for profit football club, so all the revenue generated stays within the club and doesn’t line the pockets of a multi-millionaire owner. Although the club is run by fans, the Society Board has been carefully picked and voted for by the members to include many professionals in their respective fields, so there is nothing amateurish about the make up of the club. AFC Liverpool is run as a professional organisation with big ambitions, both on and off the pitch but always puts the fans first. It is aimed especially at those Liverpool fans, who for whatever reason, are not attending Premier League football, be they priced out or just unable to get tickets. We currently play in the North West Counties League Premier Division, five promotions from the Football League. Is It Against Liverpool FC? No. Quite the opposite. It draws it’s support base from Liverpool fans. AFC Liverpool fans still support Liverpool and those who can, will still go to Anfield to support the Reds. AFC Liverpool is here to provide a match going experience for all those who currently do not have football in their lives due to the rising costs involved. Why Bother? Because thousands of Reds can’t get to games anymore, either because it is difficult to get tickets or because they can’t afford them. The average age of a Premier League fan is 43, so we need a way to get kids hooked into experiencing football at an actual match, and there is no better surrounding than passionate LFC supporters. Remember – this is not an attack on LFC or a rejection of LFC. It is here for the many thousands of Reds priced out of Premier League football. We believe that football should not be a TV show and exclusive to those who can afford it. Football is the worlds game; it should be run for the people, by the people and affordable to all.
Absolutely. A really noble cause and I support you all the way. You're right in saying that you should at least try and make a difference. And yes, the price of football generally is far too high. Your last sentence is absolutely spot on. I wish you all the luck in the world with your campaign and hope you achieve all that you set out to do. Unfortunately, there will always be people who will buy the tickets.
Your last sentence sums it up. For every fan who walks away there will be two to buy his / her ticket. Or at least that is what they want you to believe.
Exactly. Liverpool has huge support at home and abroad. Outside supporters that can't normally get a ticket, would see a boycott as an opportunity to get to a game.
I see the season ticket holders at some grounds as the current incumbent of a garden allotment. Let me explain. Most towns and cities has a chronic shortage of garden allotments. Those who are lucky enough to have one pay around £50 a year for it, to grow their vegetables for free. The garden allotment is owned by the local authority and is therefore subsidized by you, the tax payer. Perhaps someone you know would like to have his or her own garden allotment, but it's "dead man's shoes" with waiting lists that go on for years and years. Why should only a lucky few get to have the few garden allotments out there? Some local authorities have tried to address this by putting up the prices, to create a "supply and demand" culture, whereby those who really want them should have to pay a proper price for them, but when they've tried to increase the price of the allotment, the old ****ers who are lucky enough to have them start to whinge and moan, and they all gang together in protest. My view on it is this. With such a scarce resource, on that has potentially a huge demand on it, the price should be set at a level that permits the highest bidder to win - a bit like on Ebay. In effect, the garden allotment should be auctioned, with those willing to pay the most getting the plot. The same should be done with season tickets for football clubs. Put the ticket on auction and let those who are willing to pay the most have the tickets. If that means that only wealthy plastics ever get to see the likes of United and Chelsea play, tough ****. It's a free, greedy, capitalistic society that we live in, one in which voters prefer Cameron's "fcuk you jack, I'm all right" attitude to Corbyn's "everyone should be equal" socialist theme. But, regardless of what I say, above, this is exactly what the capitalist Yanky owners of 'Pool are already intent on doing, which is ensuring that ticket prices are costed to the level at which the wealthiest fan is prepared to pay. They are Camerons, not Corbyns. Rich people can cheer and chant just as loudly as penniless Scallies from the slums. Why should the rich Yanky owners care? They are not a charity, they are there to make money - lots of it - and the only way to make money from Scallies is to sell them cheap **** outside the ground, where the club's shop can sell an infinite amount of it. Inside the ground, there is a finite number of seats, so those are going to be reserved only for those who can afford to sit on them.
'Pool 2 v 2 Sunderland Woo-hoo! Agent Defoe bangs in an equaliser as the gormless Mousers slate their team and shoot themselves in the foot! Get in!!!
Ah come off it Blue you're not buying this rubbish? If it was for the sake of all the football fans where was this Liverpool fan walkout last season or the decade of seasons before that when clubs up and down the country (particularly around London) have been outpricing and alienating traditional supporters? This is ALL about the Liverpool fans, and as usual the spin they put on something they naturally dont want to admit to.... that their fans know their club, LFC (like many others) are ripping off their own The rest is all misty eyed fairytale bollox you usually get from the red half of merseyside to protect their so-called image of being beyond reproach. Dont dress it up as anything else.
Yeah but come on. I can see why they're doing it. Someone has to take a stand, It won't make any difference though.
Yeah great idea, sell off season tickets to the highest bidder. .....and end up with empty seats all over the stadium for the less attractive games when Rupert can't be arsed travelling up from the Home Counties **** the locals who've been going for decades, the game has been gentrified and they can no longer afford to be part of it. Knackers to them eh....... Your attitude sums up what's wrong with our society across the spectrum.
Hey! Don't shoot the messenger! My attitude is irrelevant. Prem football is big business and it has attracted serious businessmen who care only about the bottom line. The so-called loyal local fan accounts for a fraction of the revenue that these clubs make, so the bottom line is that such fans count for very little in the strategic thinking of such clubs. That the price that clubs like United, Arsenal, 'Pool, and Chelsea pay for being branded globally to hoards of plastic glory-seekers. Vent your spleen on the men who own and exploit you, I'm only here for the debate. Or would you rather I simply agree with everything you write and, like you, pretend that we're living in the 60s and 70s?
You were condoning it as being some unavoidable capitalist 'free market' prerequisite, it isn't. Not every club treats their fans with such disdain in terms of seat pricing.
From what I've read, L'pool are increasing prices from £59 to £77. That's an over 30% increase. That would be bad enough on its own, but the way they're playing it's taking the piss!
Where have I said that "every" club acts in this way? On the contrary, I have made it abundantly clear in my argument that it is only a certain type of club that can be exploited in this fashion, namely those clubs that have a global fan-base. It's the very fact that the "local" support is merely the tip of the financial iceberg that the owners of these clubs are able to exploit those local fans with impunity. Smaller clubs, by the very nature of the beast, cannot treat the local fan with such disdain. Clearly, Tobes, this brush with the harsh realities of life is giving you some grief, but please do try to separate what I'm saying from what I would want in an ideal world. We don't live in an ideal world, and you've got to stop having a pop at me for pointing that out.
Tbf to you, I think your original post was actually being quite cutting of the reality rather than condoning it
