Transfer Rumours The 2015 Summer Transfer Window Thread

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Focusing only on "strikers" - so ignoring wingers who can play through the middle etc:

Chelsea - Yes, Costa
City - Yes, Aguero
Arsenal - Yes, Giroud
Man Utd - Yes, Rooney
Spurs - Yes, Kane
Liverpool - Yes, Sturridge
Swansea - Hmm, maybe, probably a yes, Gomis
Stoke - No
Palace - No
Everton - Yes, Lukaku
West Ham - Yes, Sakho
WBA - Yes, Berahino
Leicester - No
Newcastle - Hmm, tough one, again probably a yes, Cisse
Sunderland - Hmm, is Defoe past it? Hard to tell in a poor Sunderland team. But I'd be tempted to just about give another yes.
Villa - Yes, Benteke
Hull - No
Burnley - Yes, ish, Ings
QPR - Yes, Austin

So whilst I think you are being very harsh on Pelle, actually your comparison to other teams is not far off.
Is this a yes or no to ability only, or whether you'd rather that player be at saints (taking into account other factors such as age)?
 
Is this a yes or no to ability only, or whether you'd rather that player be at saints (taking into account other factors such as age)?

Bit of both. I wasn't specifically thinking about us, and our style of play etc. And certainly I wasn't thinking about age.

Quite simplistically (just as a quick test of Saintmagic's opinion), I was just thinking whether each side had a striker who I rate more than Pelle.
 
I don't think Crouch for Stoke is a million miles away from Pelle's level.

Pelle would be fine as our second choice striker but if the club is going to achieve what they say they want to then he's not good enough to be first choice. I'd be delighted if we upgraded but I don't think we'll even try.
 
I don't think Crouch for Stoke is a million miles away from Pelle's level.

Pelle would be fine as our second choice striker but if the club is going to achieve what they say they want to then he's not good enough to be first choice. I'd be delighted if we upgraded but I don't think we'll even try.

Crouch is probably the most underrated striker in the PL, so not a bad comparison.
 
Bit of both. I wasn't specifically thinking about us, and our style of play etc. And certainly I wasn't thinking about age.

Quite simplistically (just as a quick test of Saintmagic's opinion), I was just thinking whether each side had a striker who I rate more than Pelle.
Fair enough, age isn't on Pelle's side but think he is brings a lot more to us than many strikers at other teams. I also think he will have a very good second season, fine line between success and if a handful of the times he hit the woodwork the shot had been a few inches elsewhere we would be talking about him as being absolutely crucial and a top quality player. I my be wrong, but think we will see an even better player this season.
 
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Hopefully the Pelle rumours are true, as some of you may know I don't have much time for him and think there are far better options out there. I genuinely think that virtually every other team in the Premiership has at least one striker I would prefer over Pelle. You can talk about goals scored all you like, but the amount he gave the ball away, missed loads of chances and generally awful link up play completely nullifies the 15/16 goals he scored for me
Glad you don't pick the team then.
 
As I wrote earlier - I think for a quick buy last summer Pelle was a good deal and got a good bag of goals for a first season in the EPL (he could have got lot more however). As St Bendy has highlighted there are better strikers in many of the other teams and, going forwards, we do need a striker with that natural ability that gets him in the right position; at that opportune and has the composure to score. Pelle does not have that ability, but I do think he is a good squad player and other players will feed off him.
 
Focusing only on "strikers" - so ignoring wingers who can play through the middle etc:

Chelsea - Yes, Costa
City - Yes, Aguero
Arsenal - Yes, Giroud
Man Utd - Yes, Rooney
Spurs - Yes, Kane
Liverpool - Yes, Sturridge
Swansea - Hmm, maybe, probably a yes, Gomis
Stoke - No
Palace - No
Everton - Yes, Lukaku
West Ham - Yes, Sakho
WBA - Yes, Berahino
Leicester - No
Newcastle - Hmm, tough one, again probably a yes, Cisse
Sunderland - Hmm, is Defoe past it? Hard to tell in a poor Sunderland team. But I'd be tempted to just about give another yes.
Villa - Yes, Benteke
Hull - No
Burnley - Yes, ish, Ings
QPR - Yes, Austin

So whilst I think you are being very harsh on Pelle, actually your comparison to other teams is not far off.

The only team I couldn't come up with an alternative was Newcastle, as **** as Pelle is Newcastles forward line is worse. As for the teams you've said no to

Stoke - crouch
Palace - Gayle
Leicester - krameric
Sunderland - fletcher
Hull - n'doye

"Pelle could've scored loads of goals if he didn't hit the woodwork so much" is possibly the stupidest argument I've ever heard. If we had had a good striker last year we would be sat here talking about plans for the champions league rather than europa
 
I think Pelle (even at his age) can improve in his second EPL season at Saints. Luckily, he has learnt that if he has a drought he can come out of it and that Southampton fans generally are on your side and are willing you to score...he said himself that he wouldn't get that at other teams.

However, I think we have reached the level where we need a killer striker (like Lambert was)...trouble is that we'd only keep him for one season :( Hope they lock Mane up at night....I have great hopes for him. And looking forward to seeing JRod regaining form.
 
The only team I couldn't come up with an alternative was Newcastle, as **** as Pelle is Newcastles forward line is worse. As for the teams you've said no to

Stoke - crouch
Palace - Gayle
Leicester - krameric
Sunderland - fletcher
Hull - n'doye

"Pelle could've scored loads of goals if he didn't hit the woodwork so much" is possibly the stupidest argument I've ever heard. If we had had a good striker last year we would be sat here talking about plans for the champions league rather than europa
No,I think your last paragraph outstrips any alleged stupid argument from others.
 
The only team I couldn't come up with an alternative was Newcastle, as **** as Pelle is Newcastles forward line is worse. As for the teams you've said no to

Stoke - crouch
Palace - Gayle
Leicester - krameric
Sunderland - fletcher
Hull - n'doye

"Pelle could've scored loads of goals if he didn't hit the woodwork so much" is possibly the stupidest argument I've ever heard. If we had had a good striker last year we would be sat here talking about plans for the champions league rather than europa
What a joke. Fletcher? How many goals has he scored for Sunderland? I bet Pelle scored more than all those players put together last season.
 
"Pelle could've scored loads of goals if he didn't hit the woodwork so much" is possibly the stupidest argument I've ever heard. If we had had a good striker last year we would be sat here talking about plans for the champions league rather than europa

Whilst football is a team game with both defence and attack needing to be on song, our greatest loss last season (and what really cost us) was losing Forster. Although the other keepers stepped up, I'm sure we'd have got a few more points with Forster in goal (affecting the whole defence and not just as a shot stopper) and if those points were against our rivals we would have got CL football. Of course, we will never know.
 
Whilst football is a team game with both defence and attack needing to be on song, our greatest loss last season (and what really cost us) was losing Forster. Although the other keepers stepped up, I'm sure we'd have got a few more points with Forster in goal (affecting the whole defence and not just as a shot stopper) and if those points were against our rivals we would have got CL football. Of course, we will never know.

I agree to an extent, but we still had plenty of ability to win a few more games in our run in, and Pelle, imo, was a large part of the reason we didn't, more so than Kelvin/Gazza. As I mentioned before, the fact that there are strikers at virtually every other team who are better than Pelle is not good enough for a team supposedly trying to achieve what we are trying to.
 
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