Thatcher Dies

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Good ole Glenda Jackson, actually bucking the trend in Parliament and telling it how it was and how it is again now.

If I was an MP, I'd stand up and say, I liked Margaret Thatcher just as much as she liked me, and I will shed as many tears as she shed when she did her best to destroy Liverpool. I hope she goes to the place that she felt I and all my fellow scousers deserved to be in.
 
I know, deep down I know that I should not feel happy about the death of another human being, somebody's mother.
I have told myself this, I even feel guilty about it - but I just can't help it.
I just think of all the misery she caused for other people's mothers, for families, for miners, for the whole of South Wales, for Liverpool, for the North of England. Her legacy: not enough Council and social housing left after the Council house sell off to the better off council tenants - leaving sink estates, and giving the current mob an excuse to get tough with the poor. Her legacy - privatised energy companies whose obligation is not to heat homes but to make a profit for the shareholders. Her legacy: to make acceptable the demonisation of anything associated with working class culture (look what happened to the Liverpool fans - it was all part of it). Her legacy: a society where wealth became the sole measure of a person's value, of society's value - that is, a society with no values. Her legacy: the woman who came to power on a slogan of 'Labour isn't Working' left office with 3 million on the dole - the country never recovered, we just stopped making things and instead developed an economy based on serving muck and coffee, cleaning and opening doors for people. God help me, forgive me, I just hate her.
DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD .......
 
"Britain wasn't some great lush utopia before Thatcher, and unions were totally out of hand and something did need to be done, it still does, I would never join a union, as they do far more to damage the economy than help it. Generally Unions help their members and damn the consequences. "

Ffs, this is why we're heading towards a McJobs, McPay and McConditions workplace. I liken this attitude to the outbreak of measles in South Wales - someone else can get innoculated and suffer the potential pain and risk. Do you REALLY think workers would have any rights or conditions were it not for unions? As it is, they're weakened to **** all now, but after the Thatcher years and her heir apparent Blair, in order to make us 'competitive' - i.e. cheap, uncomplaining serfs for donors to the Tory/Labour party - there's a ****ing race to the bottom to take us back to Victorian mills; or else we'll end up being outdone by Chinese coolies and other Third World peasants. And it'll serve us right when all these millionaire directors take our jobs to India, according to the Mail.

Thing that infuriates me about this attitude is that in my experience any rights, terms, conditions and pay that is 'won' by the unions is never turned down by the non-union members. Do they really think they'd stand a ****ing earthly negotiating against these hatchet- faced, HR cows, with their 'values and behaviours' ducking stools, IPD's wedged up their arses and complete inability/knowledge about any of the jobs they lord over and appraise, if it wasn't for the fact that a union exists in the first place?

I had a boss from the education industry about six years ago, brought in because she said she knew everything about training (though she's never stood in front of a classroom or training room in her life) who was vehemently against unions, espousing that if you're good enough at your job you should be that invaluable you don't need them. We used to call her the pigeon because every time the hatchet-faced HR director (see above) said anything she billed and cooed how wonderful and right she was. Didn't do her any good - the HR director had a mate on Linkedin (is this the new Masons or what?), so she ordered a spurrilous reorganisation based on values and behaviours (so ethemeral that you can get what ever answer you want from them) and the stupid mare lost her job to the director's pal.

And guess what? She approached me about joining the union because the HR director had only managed this (strictly illegal) move past the rest of the board on the basis that she'd find a way of withholding her severance pay on some trumped-up cause or other. We represented her - and got her the severance- if for no other reason to mix a bottle for the wildly out-of-control HR director. Nonetheless, the now redundant manager left with her money and barely a thank you, but we heard she'd moved to Ohio with her severance and was again involved in training, telling all who'll listen how unions are dinosaurs and bad for businesses and individuals...

As I say, scratch an anti-union employee and you'll find someone living under the delusion that if they burrow themselves far up the relevant boss's arsehole enough they'll be safe, so **** the rest of you. But they never. ever, ever, turn down any goodies that the union earn for employees.
 
astroturfnaut said:
Number 1 on iTunes

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Can see loadsa middle aged Tories going into there local store buying 20 copies of Duke Dumont, while getting a funny look off the cashier <laugh>

like someone earlier says, we need this to get to number 1 in the bbc charts, currently at number 10
 
Bobby Charlton's take on a minutes silence for the dead dog.

"Manchester United and England legend Sir Bobby Charlton said he could understand the antipathy towards Lady Thatcher within football.&#8220;What did Margaret Thatcher want? She put it [football] down, didn&#8217;t she?&#8221; he said. &#8220;Football wasn&#8217;t in her thoughts in lots of ways, but she did notice it was important.
&#8220;The unions seem to maybe have had a struggle that was guided by Thatcher and they maybe thought they were badly done to, which is perhaps an understatement.
"But she was such a great person and a great leader. She was first class and i think there is every reason that what she has done should be recorded."


What a ****ing ****.<ok>

PS, he was knighted by the Tories.<whistle>
 
saintanton said:
There will always be those who will exploit the system, but the amount of money the scroungers take from the overall economy is minimal. They're wrong in principle but almost irrelevant in practice. The right wing demonising of them is a red herring designed to deflect from the fact that huge amounts of public money are continuously channelled into the pockets of the already wealthy.
The point that keeps needing to be made is that benefit cutbacks will hit the majority who are genuinely needy, not just the few who are milking it.
Everybody's anecdotal evidence of knowing someone who is a scrounger just deflects from the real issue.
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Spot On
 
There was a piece on France24 what Thatcher had done to England, and a whole lot on tax evasion by the politicians and their friends too and how it costs Europe 1000s of billions and that the tax would have easily solved the debt crisis across Europe, and a picture of what it would be like if State funerals were privatised.

It was a bin truck carrying the Thatcher coffin.

Her legacy.
 
Noblelox said:
Good ole Glenda Jackson, actually bucking the trend in Parliament and telling it how it was and how it is again now.

If I was an MP, I'd stand up and say, I liked Margaret Thatcher just as much as she liked me, and I will shed as many tears as she shed when she did her best to destroy Liverpool. I hope she goes to the place that she felt I and all my fellow scousers deserved to be in.
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Our Glenda was spot on <ok> Other side of the Mersey by birth, but they were hit ****ing hard as well. Said it how she sees it and she is bang right. Top woman with principles <ok>
 
iggypop said:
I know, deep down I know that I should not feel happy about the death of another human being, somebody's mother.
I have told myself this, I even feel guilty about it - but I just can't help it.
I just think of all the misery she caused for other people's mothers, for families, for miners, for the whole of South Wales, for Liverpool, for the North of England. Her legacy: not enough Council and social housing left after the Council house sell off to the better off council tenants - leaving sink estates, and giving the current mob an excuse to get tough with the poor. Her legacy - privatised energy companies whose obligation is not to heat homes but to make a profit for the shareholders. Her legacy: to make acceptable the demonisation of anything associated with working class culture (look what happened to the Liverpool fans - it was all part of it). Her legacy: a society where wealth became the sole measure of a person's value, of society's value - that is, a society with no values. Her legacy: the woman who came to power on a slogan of 'Labour isn't Working' left office with 3 million on the dole - the country never recovered, we just stopped making things and instead developed an economy based on serving muck and coffee, cleaning and opening doors for people. God help me, forgive me, I just hate her.
DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD .......
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Well said Iggy <ok>
 
Question is, will Radio One play 'Ding dong the witch is dead' should it reach number one?
 
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