Off Topic TESTING TIMES

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Leon T Trout AFC said:
Everyone has their own story but I never had any homework until I was 11.

At primary school, the emphasis was play until I was 7 or 8. Now, at this age, kids will have done Phonics screening, KS1 SATS and possibly the new multiplication assessment in Y4
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To set “standards”.

Testing them isn’t going to make more children read sooner and learn their tables quicker.
 
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Cortez91 said:
The grammar test is the most pointless part of this debate. Don’t know why it was added.
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It'd be interesting to know the percent of kids that retain the information post KS2 and into adulthood.

Like phonics, the children actually learn bona fide linguistical terminology (phonemes, graphemes, split digraphs etc).
 
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Leon T Trout AFC said:
It'd be interesting to know the percent of kids that retain the information post KS2 and into adulthood.

Like phonics, the children actually learn bona fide linguistical terminology (phonemes, graphemes, split digraphs etc).
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Secondary schools complain that when the children go to them, they don’t know half and a quarter of what they did (or apparently did) to pass the SATs. It’s blamed on some schools stopping traditional teaching of reading, writing and maths post-SATs.

So if some children are forgetting things after one half term (plus the six weeks holidays), then they certainly won’t be retaining a whole lot into adulthood of the things not touched upon again in KS3 (like a lot of the grammar content).
 
Leon T Trout AFC said:
It'd be interesting to know the percent of kids that retain the information post KS2 and into adulthood.

Like phonics, the children actually learn bona fide linguistical terminology (phonemes, graphemes, split digraphs etc).
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My 6 year old comes home telling me things I might have known at one point but have no ****ing idea what she’s waffling on about.
 
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Leon T Trout AFC said:
In short:

For all of these tests, particularly at KS2, they matter not, apart from to be able to rank primary schools. At the start of KS3 most secondary schools retest their intake, in some form or another, anyway.

They cause untold stress and schools are often literally dropping the teaching of other subjects, to literally teach-to-test in English SPAG and Maths (in Y6).

Meanwhile, as the Nat Lit Trust report, shockingly low levels of critical literacy are apparent in these school kids.

Any teacher worth their salt will know their children's abilities, as they use formative assessment day-in-day-out and whilst I'm not all out opposed to exams per se, SATS, in my opinion, need scrapping or reforming.
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Thank you. You've given me a better understanding. Misdirected use of resources.
"Worth their salt" perhaps suggests there may be a degree of inadequacy in the teaching levels and/or too much pressure on the teachers themselves ?
 
tigerscanada said:
Thank you. You've given me a better understanding. Misdirected use of resources.
"Worth their salt" perhaps suggests there may be a degree of inadequacy in the teaching levels and/or too much pressure on the teachers themselves ?
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No problem and thank you.

To clarify, I meant that a good teacher will know these things through the work they do in the classroom, without needing the artificial extremity of high-stakes testing being the defining point.
 
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