Terry accused of being racist once again.

Do people really think that you don't get this sort of thing any more?

Look at South Park.
They literally target anyone that they can think of.
The one black kid in the town is called Token Black, for ****'s sake!

 

About the only groups you're allowed to poke fun at these days are toffs or the white middle class.

However, the fact is that, as with all isms, they're all one-way - Chris Rock has plenty of material that no white comedian would be allowed to do, for example, let alone the interchangeable act of Andi Osho and Gina Yashere (which is the exact same act Lenny Henry was doing 30 years ago, but that's another matter...)

Errm...
http://uk.tv.ign.com/articles/108/1086604p1.html

 

Rock & a lot of others, including Eddie Murphy, just copied Richard Pryor. He was, undoubtedly, one of the funniest comedians to ever get up on a stage. However, Pryor's humour could be heavily anti-white, he was also a mysoginist. He attacked just about everything & anything; but if you've never heard one of his old uncensored stand-up routines, then get a DVD and have a look. Be warned, though, if you are even remotely easily offended - don't bother!

 

That's American. I've seen it once or twice - it's reasonably amusing. We used to lead he world in comedy, nowadays we can't seem to raise a smile.
It's really come to something when the Americans are producing more daring, and even funnier material than the Brits do.

 

I have coloured mates and we take the piss out of each others colour at every opportunity, don't use the unacceptable words of course, but thats how it should be for me.

I saw a black comedian at Hammersmith Apollo last year, and he was brilliant, Stephen K Amos. Similar age to me, and basically takes the piss out of himself telling the stories from when he was a kid, growing up as a black lad in that era. Again I appreciate thats not everyones cup of tea for humour, but it is for some. He had a tv show which was really lame, but live, totally different.

 

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You have similar sideburns

Do you seriously still use "coloured"? That's pretty outdated, mate. Me and my black friends usually rip on eachother too and usually adding a few slurs into but that's only with good friends that I've known for years.

 

Nonsense, using someone's race as insult is totally out of order. It implies that soemone's race makes them inferior, which is abhorable behaviour, bald people however are inferior, they have to waste money on hats.

 

No schteff I don't use that term normally, but just goes to show that we go out of our way to use words that don't offend, when we're talking about the subject in public, it was just the first innocuous one that came into my head.

I also don't see why race/skin colour should be off limits, if hair colour (ginger) is fair game for satirical humour why not skin colour. If I was called a snowflake or a white c--- on holiday in Africa, you wouldn't see me crying to the authorities.

 

That's the thing.

Whilst we often hear the same lines trotted out about the PC Brigade in this country, on the other side of the Atlantic the attitudes are far more Puritanical when it comes to TV, yet they have things that really push the boat out like Dexter, South Park, Family Guy, The Sopranos and Six Feet Under that British TV just wouldn't dare think of in a million years.

The real issue in the UK is the attitude of "Oh, this will cause offence, best leave it out" occurs during the writing process, so what we end up with is a lot of self-censorship, which is what you don't get in the US. With the exception of Brass Eye, nobody has the balls.

 

There are clearly problems with our game, but elsewhere it is even worse http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15534362.stm

 

Yes - on Twitter: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15537141.stm

So after months of jumping up and down saying England should've got the 2018 World Cup because Russians are racist, we've had the England captain racially abuse a fellow professional (and not for the first time in his career) and players being racially abused on their Twitter accounts within the same week, shortly after Luis Suarez racially abused Patrice evra and a few months after fans of the "preferred" tenants of the Olympic Stadium have also been charged with racially abusing Demba Ba.

It's a very English habit to criticise everyone else whilst ignoring the exact same thing happening in your back garden, isn't it?

 

Homophobia today too: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15533927

Can't those queers keep their hands off each other for 90 minutes?

Below the belt?

Oops.

Twice.

 

Two red cards?
They should have been given a standing ovation.

 

I'm guessing innocent till proven guilty does not carry much weight with you! I posted to this thread mainly to show the video I attached, but on the substance of your point - the twitter thing is nothing, some moron with 2 brain cells. Never going to eradicate stupidity completely, and I hope the courts deal with the little twat. Suarez and Terry cases are still unclear. I think the Suarez case is the more serious if both are true.

Don't want to stick up for Terry, but that was a misphrased flash of annoyance (Ferdinand had clobbered him twice off the ball). Still think he should be removed permanently from the England squad if true, but possible to argue he wasn't intentionally racist, just not bright enough to understand the effect of his language choice.

Suarez if true is diabolical. Using hideous racist language to wind up a player is absolutely unforgivable. If that is proved, a 3-6 month ban from all football is appropriate.

 

How do you know that the people racially abusing players on Twitter are English, Croydon?
One of the players being accused of doing it certainly isn't and I don't think that you can compare those isolated incidents to widespread and open crowd racism.

Did you miss Lokomotiv Moscow's parting message to Peter Odemwingie?

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It might cause a bit of a rumpus!

 

If anything, I'd be more concerned with the racist undertones of MOTD pundits over the years.

First of all there was the FA Cup game between Arsenal and Sheffield United a few years back, with the kerfuffle about Kanu playing on when a player was down injured, yet the blame was never aimed at Marc Overmars even though he was the player that scored. There was plentiful use of the word "naive" to describe Kanu as well, implying he'd been brought in from some footballing backwater - which is remarkably ignorant, given his previous two clubs were Ajax and Inter.

Secondly, a few seasons back we won a game against Portsmouth after a penalty that Zokora blatantly dived for, and there was a massive ruckus. Yet there was nothing like it two weeks earlier, when Liverpool cheated Sheffield United out of three points after a Steven Gerrard dive.

Indeed, every World Cup, you're guaranteed to hear the word "naive" applied to the defending or goalkeeping of one African nation - even if their players happen to be playing in the top leagues of Europe.

As for Ferdinand clobbering Terry when he was off the ball, does that mean every player repeatedly clattered by Terry over the years is within their rights to reel off a list of racial abuse in his direction? Of course it isn't - and Terry certainly wasn't clattered by Ledders when he was the target of racial abuse.

Mainly because Northumbria police are investigating, implying it wasn't somebody posting from Russia, Spain, or whoever the finger is being pointed at this week...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/01/sammy-ameobi-racist-abuse-twitter

That article also notes that Chelsea fans are targetting Anton Ferdinand's Twitter account - what's the excuse for that one?

 

Agreed - A few World Cup's back, Barry Davies was pretty much guaranteed to make patronising remarks about African and Asian referees: that they were not up to handling the 'big' matches. I never understood why refereeing Ghana v Senegal (say) might be 'easier' somehow than France v Spain.

 

Northumbria Police are investigating because of the location of the victim.

What's to say that the Chelsea fans are English?

Racism on the internet is massively widespread and uncontrollable.
It really doesn't compare to things like an openly racist banner at a game, which you've chosen to completely ignore, for some reason.

 

Less dishonesty from the African players, perhaps?