TELEGRAPH: Saints warn Schneiderlin of consequences, if he continue to be "difficult"

Okay, I'll add an option 3:

3. Morgan is unbelievably stupid.

 

He should have pursued it more then.

At some point, if you want something to happen, you have to make it happen yourself. you can't just lounge around expecting things to fall into your lap, and the club certainly shouldn't be under the obligation to help a player leave, unless they have to.

 

Or arrogant and believed the club and ownership was weak without cortese.
Shaw and Lallana had just gone.

edit: and rickie.

 

Maybe you give players too much intellectual credence. Remember this was a man who many saw as a father figure; a man who gave these players lots of love and attention and made them feel like Kings (all this good in my opinion, by the way) and a man who built up such a strong bond with these players .... he could now be saying... b,b,b,b,b, but had an agreement with the boss. I can believe that Cortese had such a presence about him that he could have said this verbally (and meant it) in such a away that Morgan and his agent accepted it in a warm and comforting manner and didn't dare ask to have it in writing (or think to get it in writing).

 

perhaps he expected that pinnocio would have a bigger transfer kitty at tottenham and would make a credible offer.

 

I'm not saying they were under an obligation to help him leave; they were well within their rights to go back on a promise a previous chairman had made, but it's their responsibility to let the players know where they stand, and they waited until summer to do that. It's just another example of the communication being piss poor.

 

i don't think anybody is in any doubt that communication was piss poor. the whole club was a mess in the wake of the fulcrum departing.

 

The club wasn't a mess immediately after Cortese left. It wasn't a mess until the summer. They had so long to see the mess coming.

 

only because they shut up shop. if they were trying to make signings or deal with outgoing players the circus would have begun mid season.

they elected to prop up the existing regime until the season was over, to the clubs eventual detriment.

pinnochi didn't even turn up to training much second half of the season IIRC.

 

Worth considering that if these players were given verbal agreements they could leave this summer, that Cortese wouldn't have been able to keep them here either?

 

If he'd told them they could leave then one would assume he'd have stuck to his word, yes. We don't know who he had such an agreement with though. Surely not Lovren, for one.

 

Shouldn't the obvious assumption be to assume you stand in the same place? For ****s sake, they're (supposedly) functioning adults. If you want to find out where you stand, go and find out! They're not children.

 

Has all that stuff about Les Reed purposefully ignoring attempts at communication passed you by?

 

Sorry guys I just do not buy into this obligation that spider is saying that Cortese promised he could leave at the end of the last season. He wasn't in the French managers thinking when he was choosing his squad for the world cup. he was called up at a later date.
So his value at his time of the so called discussions about the end of the season would have been potential only. I cannot fathom why Cortese would negotiate a 5 year deal and tell the guy he would be able to go after a year. It just isn't Cortese's way!! Yes it would push the price up a tad but the price wouldn't have been that good as he was not a full international at that time.
Spider was /is a prized asset to the team. Cortese would have known that...I just don't see Cortese allowing him to go. Sorry for me it ain't adding up.....

 

i'm beginning to believe that was very purposefully so that the club could find out where they stood. hard to tell the players where they stand until you know where the club stands.

 

Not seen a shred of solid evidence.

 

Remembercolinlee - as you have probably seen from previous comments that Morgan has been the best defensive midfielder in the EPL for two years (our views and statistically). He is a young man, a new French international and on a long contract so Levy thinks he has a chance of getting him for £15m he is having a laugh.
Snidders is probably our best player so unless Spurs want to pay out £25m-£30m then I think they need to look elsewhere.
After all Bindippers paid out £25m for Lallana and he isn't as good at his job as Snidders is

 

You seem perfectly willing to believe some other things there's no shreds of solid evidence for.

 

Fonte gave an interview to the echo saying as much. It wasn't published because the club finally got in touch but it's definitely an issue on some level.

 

In all honesty I had no idea about him until this season...I have no problem with southampton demanding top money for their players ...its what we do all the time...as they need to look after themselves.
Liverpool and united paid big big money for your players and that has inflated the market imo.
In truth I hope we do not sign him...his behaviour mirrors that of modric and berbatov...if he wanted to leave then either do not sign a 5 year contract or negotiate a proper release clause and then tell the buying club to pay up or shut up.
£25-30m is a huge gamble imo and he will either flop or, if a success, treat us as poorly as he is treating you.

As an outsider I think the political in fighting at the club that led to that bloke leaving last christmas is responsible for the exodus of your playing and managerial / coaching staff this summer. I hope it dont lead to a collapse of southampton as they have been great to watch. I went to the match at the lane and thought we were lucky to win but enjoyed the match so much.