Dellatorre is a loan for the EDS? Hughes is a signing but Dellatore is for the 1st team so its 7. The OWS splash about him confirms that, EDS signings dont get that publicity.
Donaldson for sure but Ive never heard of a loan for a youth team. We will see in the next few games.
But they don't cope perfectly fine when occasionally they come up against strikers passing the ball and running quickly off them - exactly as Leicester did them when Vardy scored their first on my one visit to LR this season right in front of me - Dunne was done by just that. Burnley's strikers have similar capabilities.
That's nonsense Ozzie, pure nonsense. You've given me one example when they got done. One example out of over half a season. Half a season, remember, where we've got by far and away the best defensive record in the entire league. There's no other team in this division that could have accrued so many points from so few goals scored. Why? Because of our defensive solidity. A solidity which is built on Hill's and Dunne's backs. Even that Leicester game, they only scored once. Besides, how do you know young Ned would've done any better? Oh he's quick alright but when I think of the amount of perfectly timed tackles and brilliant positional play by Hill and Dunne, I honestly don't think another player in the entire division would have done as well as either of those two - including young Onuoha. You was all calling for Ned and when you were given him, he was torn a new one up at Everton. The poor lad was roasted alive. Now don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the boy and he'll do well if he continues to learn his trade. But please stop this nonsense talk about Hill and Dunne getting the run around against fast players because it just ain't happening. What these boys lack in pace they more than make up for in experience and guile. If and when their form lapses then by all means replace one of them with Onuoha but don't go fu*king with a partnership that's been imperious for us all season or I guarantee you'll regret it Oz.
Someone put up stats that showed we let in least goals when Ned played CB early this season before his injury so you are on shaky ground here mate. I seen Dunne and Clint done for speed many times, but they do very well no arguement there. I prefer to see 1 of the CBs being quicker, and Ned is the only one we have that fits that, though personally I rate him slightly more at RB as today.
Ossy mate We seem to disagree on pretty much everything. Dunne has a lot more pace than he is given credit for and his positional awareness is unmatched by anybody at this level. Forwards by their nature and are meant to be fast. Very few CBs have lightening pace. Please also remember that Onouha has played very very few games at CB both for us and City, ask yourself why? Many on here think he should automatically start at CB when fit but he has a long long way to go before hd proves himself in this position.
As I said I prefer Ned at RB and I'm not knocking Dunne though apart from his great goal he's not doing well today. But we did well with Ned at CB as the stats shough.
Our CBs are under huge pressure today because we are being repeatedly sliced open out wide. Both our full backs are having nightmares Be careful of using stats. Flyer uses them and we all see his rubbish
Yes right Stats are always rubbish when they don't support the rubbish you are talking! I agree BAE had a mare today, gave away their third and could have easily given them the game in the last minute. Ned was Ok though as was Clint. Dunne scored a beauty but was at fault for at least their second. But I also agree with you that the back 4 were under too much pressure today with only 2 in central midfield and of them Kransjar was usually well forward. Barton was our best player but cannot be everywhere. We needed another more defensive player there all game for me. Harry went from very defensive too suddenly too gung ho. I'd have liked to have seen Carroll play instead of AJ, and in a 4 2 3 1 or similar.
All I'm saying Oslo is that stats can be very misleading. Plenty of times this year we had neatly 60% possession and yet created nothing. Stats font always tell the full story, What rubbish am I talking? If you watched the game today you'll have seen that Burnley are excellent are working the flanks and consistently try and isolate the fullbacks to whip in crosses. They very rarely threatened through the centre. Neither BAE nor Onouha got tight enough resulting in the Burnley wingers having the freedom of the pitch. Both Dunne and Hill were placed under huge pressure from the wings but not really through the centre. Onouha is not a fullback IMO and he has still a lot to prove at CB.
No No No No NO!! Ozzie, you do wind me up sometimes! The moment the ball was put out wide I started shouting for Hoillett and/or Onuoha to track their winger yet they gave him all the time in the World to pick out the striker with a perfect cross. Could Dunne have done better? Perhaps. Who were mainly at fault for the goal? The two wide players who gave the winger the freedom of Loftus Road. OZZIE OZZIE OZZIE, NO NO NO!!
I certainly agree with this description of the second goal. However, I thought that Dunne had a poorish game today, as he definitely did against Bolton. I couldn't say whether it was Dunne or Hill who Ings stepped away from fro the first goal, but he left them very easily. After we had allowed the wide man so much time & space for the second goal, the delivery, movement from Vokes & his header were of quality. BAE was our weakest today though. Not only did he give tham the third goal but tried very hard on two other occasions to hand them goals.
This. Although it was Vogts's foot, not his head. Apart from his goal, Dunne was poor today. Mis-timing headers, clumsy challenges and completely lost Ings for the first goal. Nuts.......he's not quick mate. He may get some speed up after a few yards, but we all know it's those first couple of yards that matter and he's very slow there. Ned was very rusty too and I agree with swords that Hoilett was mainly to blame for their 2nd, although, again Dunne lost his man! I'd like a fully up to speed Ned in at CB with either Dunne or Hill.
Nonsense. He's the best center back in Britain by a country mile. Who cares that he's only played a handful of games there and the last time he played there he was chewed up and spat back out (Everton)? He should be the England Captain for the World Cup. No ifs, buts or maybes.
I've said all along that personally I wouldn't have Barton in our team. I know many/most on here won't agree with that but I don't see how he fits into my preferred 4-4-2. I don't applaud effort, as I see it as a prerequisite. For me, Barton falls between two stools, as he's definitely not a DCM and doesn't have the creativity that Niko/Benayoun has. He does however fit into a 4-2-3-1 and I know many on here prefer that. I think it's no coincidence that since we changed system in recent weeks we have started scoring and creating more. I just can't see how Harry would play a 4-4-2 without a DCM. I don't rate Henry as a footballer and I believe that the club have made a mistake in not purchasing a quality DCM in the transfer window but he is the best option we have in that position at the moment. Just my thoughts.
