Yes Sparkley my comments have been treated "very reasonably" <rugpulled> Seems that Cardiff fans can't bear to keep on-topic. First we have something that happened in the Swansea v Hull game and now it's our admin many years ago. Why are you afraid to talk about Tan? Is it because you know you're stuck with him?
Nobody is afraid to talk about Tan - read the thread. You are wumming to provoke a response. The responses have been reasonable. You will obviously get others who treat you differently and who's to say they're wrong?
KJ, you have gone over old ground so stop with the bleating about others bringing up past events up. With regard to someones view that Tan would be forgiven if he hadn't rebranded is an opinion of some but not all, so quit generalising and making it something it isn't. I think Tan is wrong to go public but I also believe MM is orchestrating something to force Tans hand. Read the thread in full before making comments it only makes you look like a troll… Oh yeah you are, so any more rubbish and you're out of here ok. So stop boring people with lame attempts and be a bit more imaginative. [video=youtube;i8LOLswfTkQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8LOLswfTkQ[/video]
He is becoming annoying now, won't be long before we give him a christmas present and send him home to the jack board. Must be upsetting a few outsiders that we are not condemning Tan, but rather trying to see all points of view. The manager is just the manager(although a very good one in this case) and if he goes we get another one, even the jacks will have no problem with that concept. But Tan holds the club in his hands at this moment, and although he mightn't know a lot about the running of a football club(bit like the fans) he is just as eager as us, maybe more so, that the club does well. If he has been watching some of the drivel we have been watching lately it's no wonder he is a bit wound up.
Don't take it, it's just a big bluff worked out between MM and Tan so we don't pay over the odds for players in the January window, we go in for a player and the agent won't bother trying to screw us for more money with all this happening. MM gets his 3 players for half the going rate and takes us into next season.
Bony - editing anyone else's posts and reprinting them is going to cost you the right to post on this forum - cut it out pal.
Nearly as bad as a director's son diving on the ball to waste time, after bragging about doing it on twitter......... didn't they give that director a bonus ?
Oh for ****'s sake! "Must be upsetting a few outsiders that we are not condemning Tan, but rather trying to see all points of view." Not at all. More puzzled, actually. Whatever the rights and wrongs you cannot possibly see his 'point of view' when he appoints a 23 year old painter and makes spats with the Manager public. How on earth can you defend either??? I'd love to hear a reasonable response instead of constantly having a go at me. But let's be clear.... You lot can criticise Sri Vincent whatever his name is and that's fine (though only a handful seem to want to do so) but if I do it I'm being "unreasonable", "going over old ground" and "wumming to get a response". Sorry but you and Tan deserve each other. Have a nice evening.
It would be good if you didn't have an obvious agenda, for instance the guy wasn't a painter, you know this don't you? and if you do why do you constantly refer to him as such. You want reasonable answers then you must be reasonable as well. I have no problem giving you my point of view as I see things, and have no problem debating your thoughts on it. But it seems that not what you really want.
I think Tan deserves plenty of criticism but as you say Aussie has an agenda. Cardiff City can compete in the PL long term unlike his club. Hes in total fear! Hes in that minority of chip on your shoulder Jacks who hate anything to do with Cardiff. As you say hed didnt employ a painter did he.? The reason he was involved in the club in all probability is to do with trying to get his father to invest in the club. Though making him Head of Recruitment was wrong even if I doubt hed have anything to do with the say on transfers. I still expect Malky to go before the window and to be replaced by a new manager.
"I still expect Malky to go before the window and to be replaced by a new manager. " ..and that's Ok then. Believe me I have better things to do than have an agenda. There are questions that should be answered and if it takes a Jack to ask them then so be it. Nobody else is asking them. I dislike Cardiff City but I despise owners like Tan even more and I wouldn't wish this type of owner on any club - even yours. The 23 year old was some sort of Job Opportunities thingy who did some painting. How he managed to work without a permit is a question best left unasked- like so many others. Sorry not to give him his official title - I'm sure that makes him much more qualified. Most of us on the Jacks board cannot understand what happened there and now we have Tan going public with something he should have kept behind closed doors. The guy does not understand football, or more importantly its fans. That's obvious. Neither of the above is defensible imo but yet what I see here is a very defensive attitude about Tan and a reluctance to have a pop. I'm assuming that you probably feel you simply cannot defend the indefensible but you know he's got you by the short and curlies. Which of course he has. But that doesn't mean you as fans shouldn't be outraged and scream from the ****ing rooftops. Fair play to Hughs as I recall he was one of the few who did so in a recent thread. There would be uproar if Jenkins did anything like that at our Club. It's not just us Jacks that are taking Tan to task - the media is too and rightly so. What's perplexing is Cardiff's fans' reluctance to do likewise. Now if you care to debate instead of bitching about me that would be appreciated.
You seem to want to ignore what doesn't suit you, that really makes it impossible to have any debate with you on this subject. You relent about him being a painter but still want to make a joke about it. You are saying one thing then doing the opposite, and worst of all you make assumptions about what others are thinking, again ignoring what they say if it doesn't suit. Hilts as just criticized Tan and you ignore that in favour of getting your point (scoring) across. If you aren't wumming in an underhand way I can only say you are a very confused man.
If the media wanted to really find the story they should look into why this son of a multi millionaire was shadowing Moody for months. Lets face it im sure he could have got him work elsewhere. No seems he wants him working at a football club. Maybe its to invest at Cardiff , maybe hes looking at another club. I reckon Tan wants other investors. Who knows.? However the statement made should not have been made public.
Hilts says "tan deserves criticism" then writes a further 8 lines about nasty old me. Whoop de do. It's clear that your view of me is clouding your ability to think straight and debate properly so I'll be off and leave you to look at all sides of the story.
