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Takeover's not Done

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by BillysStatue, Jan 23, 2014.

  1. RCDM

    RCDM Well-Known Member

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    So you're welcoming someone with open arms, thats you know nothing about?

    Think about that for a second, and maybe google his name <ok>
     
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  2. DirtyLeeds

    DirtyLeeds Well-Known Member

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    Hardly Al Capone is he ? But keep digging geezer.....
     
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  3. Doc

    Doc Well-Known Member

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    RCDM so you want to vet anyone who wants to get involved with the club? What did you know about GFH Capital or any of the people concerned. you do talk garbage at times mate. How low do you want our club to go before you accept that what we have and have had isn't good enough.

    Nobody had heard anything about the Swiss family who bought the saints when they were on the verge of administration. Nobody had heard anything about the arab who bought Man City, the arab who bought Forest, or Fernadez who bought QPR ......... The bottom line is that these unheard of people have gone into the club and breathed new life into them
     
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  4. RCDM

    RCDM Well-Known Member

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    I don't think its me thats talking garbage kid.

    In the world we live in nowadays, within hours of someone being linked with the club, the information is out there to be seen as to what they've been up to in the past.

    You've named some clubs that have done well from new owners.

    But then what about the Blackburns and the Portsmouths of this world?

    Both the Cardiff and Hull owners have got them to the premiership, but it doesn't change the fact that they're so out of touch with their fans its ridiculous. Do I want an owner like that for Leeds? Do i fk.

    I'm bored to death with the slagging off of Haigh, what has he actually done thats so bad?
     
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  5. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    Saints are in a real muddle now, lots of potential heartache ahead for them ... their benefactor died in 2010, and his daughter Katharina Liebherr inherited a £3bn fortune, lock, stock and barrel, INCLUDING Southampton ... she has dumped Nicola Cortese, the Chairman and replaced him with herself ... the reason for her sudden move in disrupting Saints is because she didn't agree with the plan to get Saints into Europe, and the money required to do this ... the big fear now is that she sells off their best players to recoup some of the money her father put in, and because she has no ties to Southampton there is a fear that the club will be poorly run, and she will eventually sell once they are relegated and the parachute payments run out ... she is seen as a bit vicious with no business acumen at all ... hmmmmm
     
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  6. Doc

    Doc Well-Known Member

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    "I'm bored to death with the slagging off of Haigh, what has he actually done thats so bad?"

    What he's done is non-stop gobbing off on twatter and facefuck telling fans what he's going to do. He has over promised and under delivered big time.

    I have given them the benefit of the doubt for 12-months now and loved it when Bates was outed. I've seen the ship being steadied and loved that too and have enjoyed having a manager who seemed to know what he was doing and being backed to some degree. Great as far as it goes, but recently we've seen a takeover deal being bragged about since November, promises of great things happening as soon as the deal goes through, and the manager given backing to go out and buy players even if the deal is not completed. Sick of hearing empty promises and need to see some action
     
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  7. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    Doc ... Haigh has always said he will work to bring in money and investors, and it seems he is trying to do just that, but GFH are hanging on because they want to retain a stake for when the Prem riches arrive
     
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  8. LeedsinYork

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    <applause> <applause> :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  9. Doc

    Doc Well-Known Member

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    Billy yes GFH want to keep 10% but they will be loath to sell 75% if they think they will not realise those riches because the people you sell the club to don't have the cash to take the club up! There lies the main problem.

    There are certain obligations/clauses within the sale contract that Sports Direct cannot complete/adhere to. So if you read press reports in Italy you will see that the delay has been because Haigh's team have had to try and persuade Don Corleone to put some cash in. There are also questions being raised about Flowers involvement as he's sold his insurance company and now uses a Gibralter Address (Here we go again) GFH don't think theres enough money to get the club promoted, so as the exclusivity period has now elapsed the silly deal that the Chief was part of are now back with investment offer 2, and Don Corleone may also be looking to go it alone.

    Cut and Pasted below

    "So what can we deduce from all this? Well it is now clear that McDermott has been left high and dry by this whole process (and if Cellino is involved will have the first credible threat to his tenure) and the fantasy of him “being able to sign who he likes” has turned into Haigh’s unfunnest joke ever. GFH’s previous mutterings about being “in it for the long term” are scattered to the four winds and the 10% they intend to retain is a small gamble for a further profit making sale a year or two down the line. We can deduce without any fear of legal correspondence GFH will be disposing that 75% to someone come what may. If anyone had any doubts that Sports Capital were struggling to fully fund their purchase and ambitions the delays and the chats with Cellino blow that away. Haigh is as exposed by his thin PR veneer, whether he likes it or not (and I suspect he will like it), as Cameron is by his and we, the punters, season ticket holders, the support are being treated to version 13 of the mushroom school of communication (in other words we are required to sit in a dark place and have manure thrown at us). Again in short patience and more importantly credibility is being stretched to the limits".
     
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  10. MIGHTY

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    I live in Italy lads i know Italian footy very well,And THERES ONE VERY IMPORTANT THING YOU ALL NEED TO KNOW

    IF THIS GUY TAKES OVER AT LEEDS YOUR NIGHTMARES ARE ONLY JUST BEGINING BATES IS AN ANGEL COMPARED "GOD HELP YOU "

    If he is part of the group taking over you now know why the FL are not playing ball <ok>

    This guy is the Italian Bates but 10 times worse but dont take my word for it do your homework <ok>
     
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  11. Irishshako

    Irishshako Well-Known Member

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    At last someone who knows something(you aren't taking the pee now Mighty)..:grin:
     
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  12. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    Doc ... GFH don't have the money to invest, they will have a clause to buy them out at a certain price after say four years if the Prem hasn't been reached ... there is no queue forming to buy Leeds so they don't exactly have negotiating power

    WORRY - why are there no megabucks buyers lining up to buy what must be the most viable club outside the top four in the Prem to own? Are billionaires really that stupid? Now with the Prem gold being even more bloated, you'd think Leeds would be on everyone interested in buying an English club's radar ... but no, just not happening


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  13. MIGHTY

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    "god help you" 10 x a bigger bandit than Bates could ever wish to be <yikes> will take more money from Leeds than Bates ever did.and will interfere with team transferes,sales,wages,running, and "if you want stability at your club forget it!" McDermott will be lucky to last a week <yikes>
     
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  14. MIGHTY

    MIGHTY Del-Boy

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    Cagliari fans have been trying for years to oust him from their club, He wont invest a single penny of his own money,the one difference between this guy and Bates is Bates did put money in to restore ER the ground where Cagliari play is in dire need to repair it only has temorary stands is in a disgusting state and capacity is getting smaller and smaller as its being shut down <yikes> and he will not give 1 cent to help <yikes>

    Like i said WORSE than Bates <laugh>
     
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  15. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    Do you seriously believe that?
    All the Prem clubs are guaranteed £120M with this new tv deal (relegated or not)
    They all own their own grounds
    They all own their own training facilities
    They all have far valuable squads than Leeds
    None of them have bad credit ratings because of recent Administrations

    In the present climate, Leeds are a less viable club than those in League 2.

    #deludedmonkeys
     
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  16. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    So these are our options
    1 Haigh and buddies including this Italian git. Club gets raped and were left with a crap squad, no manager and stadium allowed to fall apart (not good)
    2 Haigh manages to cobble together a deal on his own but clearly has nothing to build a squad with going forward (not good)
    3 Radebe outfit follow up on their paltry original 7m offer. Football people involved so may have something to offer (maybe)
    4 Nobody buys us leaving us in the cash strapped hands of current hopeless owners (to good)
    A poor looking set of options in my humble opinion with only the Radebe outfit offering any glimmer of hope and we know nothing about them.
    Ah yes, the futures white all right
     
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  17. esteponawhite

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    Some more info on coroleone!!

    Cagliari owner Massimo Cellino is set to buy Leeds United if the Italian press are to be believed, but what would that mean for the club?

    Any Cagliari fan will tell you, love him or loathe him, there's never a dull moment with Sardinian entrepreneur Massimo Cellino at the reins.

    SEE ALSO: Cellino may make international goalkeeper first Leeds signing

    Since buying Cagliari in 1992, Cellino has been an inspirational figure and a ludicrous one almost in equal measure.

    The club has to some extent flourished and set its foundations in Serie A rather than hovering between the top three divisions as the Rossoblu did in the late 1980s.

    But Cellino's attempts to build a more suitable new ground for Cagliari have been a comedy of errors and ended in a bizarre period of house arrest last year when he was accused of embezzlement - charges that seemed spurious and politically motivated.

    And Cellino's hands-on approach may not work well at Leeds or any other English club for that matter. The fiery businessman is known as a mangiaallenatori or 'manager eater' in Italy as he loses patience very quickly.

    Cellino axed a total of 36 coaches in 20 years at Cagliari before finally sacking the team itself as he is preparing to sell up in order to dedicate himself to Leeds.

    That's a scary proposition for Brian McDermott who also might not take kindly to Cellino's forceful suggestions of players to sign.

    Behind the scenes, Cellino is known for his bizarre superstitions. He is famously phobic of the number 17 and believes purple to be an unlucky colour. Unless his team plays on the 17th when it cancels out, so fans must wear purple.

    Cellino once told coach Massimiliano Allegri to change his black suit after losing five games in a row in 2009 as he felt it looked severe. Allegri replaced it with a blue one, a winning run ensued and they finished ninth.

    While Cellino will claim that anecdote shows the importance of projecting the right appearance to your players, others would say it sums up his control freak tendency and that the change in results was completely unrelated.

    Leeds fans may understandably feel uneasy at the prospect of Cellino upsetting the balance of the club, sacking managers and dictating transfer policy.

    But Cellino's passion can be a positive thing. He has a vast fortune to spend and a wealth of contacts with top Italian players who would consider playing for him when they may otherwise dismiss a move to England.

    If Cellino does succeed in buying Leeds, fans could be set for a roller-coaster ride but mercifully it appears the fixture list has spared them any games on the 17th.
     
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  18. MIGHTY

    MIGHTY Del-Boy

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    Theres always No5

    Walk towards the light and become a wall fan <ok> Our Mr Ambler at this very minute is on his way to meet Ollie in Portugal to discuss future transfers, and has instructions from J Berylson to advise he will be backed fully by the board <ok>

    fantastic option <ok>
     
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  19. esteponawhite

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    Posted by his son,where ther's smoke.......


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  20. Doc

    Doc Well-Known Member

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    Billy we've known for years that Leeds utd is a one club city and is the last of the big clubs with huge potential earnings power. The problem was always ken bates as nobody would deal with him. Bates was left in charge for so long that he stripped the club down to the bare bones and not only that, but loaded the club with debt again. Foward season tickets sales has another 2-years to run, the playing staff is worthless as everyone who was worth anything has been sold. The cupboard is bare.

    A potential buyer spoke recently about wishing he dare buy the club, and wouldn't because it would hurt his family as he would need to use the whole of his £100m fortune to turn the club around. That figure was for 100% of the shares, purchase of ER, purchase or TA, tens of millions in the playing staff, because limping along in the championship is wrong and money is in the prem. Not many people willing to throw that sort of money at a club where there could be future potential problems due to ken Bates
     
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