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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Busy Being Headhunted, Dec 8, 2013.

  1. DaveThomas

    DaveThomas Well-Known Member

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    Of course I disagree and Taarabt to be considered a failure at premiership level is beyond me. No facts at all IMO
    He scored great goals and played some great games in a messed up QPR who everyone bar Mackie was rubbished on here.

    QPR failed as a unit and as a club
    Taarabt was forced out and then wanted out
    He can be without lazy and doesn't do the parts of the game that a Oneil or a Henry or Barton does
    That doesn't make him a bad player
    As an attacking player he is a gifted genius who has done things at our club that may never be repeated

    Anyone agree these are facts

    I can't understand how any QPR fan can rubbish this player

    We judge forward players by these exact moments of magic

    The world very best players playing creative attacking roles few work hard and track back

    He has done himself no favours off the pitch or with his choices of advisors

    He remains a super talent and I have complete faith in his abilities and cannot use the word rubbish with this player and can't understand QPR fans who say so

    He has it in his locker to change a game and I am happy knowing he will do that ... I hope it's back with us
     
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  2. BlindFaith

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    Definitely not a rubbish player but does have a rubbish attitude which will stop even getting close to reaching his potential.

    As well as having it in his locker to change a game he also has it in him to poison the dressing & that's why I see no reason to welcome him back.
     
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  3. danishqp

    danishqp Well-Known Member

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    Hi Queens, you do spout some s...., especially where you compare your parks kick abouts with Taarabt. You say save your praise for someone who deserves it, would that mean Barton? Would that mean Krancjar who you were all lauding after 2 games?
    My problem isn't with Taarabt, my problem in this case is with good ol 'Arry - The two things that this man was reknowned for was man management and attacking football - In regards to our beloved club he has done neither.
    You want facts? - Well here are some unrefutable facts -

    1. Taarabt knows he is now in the 2nd last chance saloon - Any decent motivator, man manager who actually cares could get the best out of this man at this given time.
    2. A motivated Adel Taarabt, (pains me to say it but as Hughes had him) will simply tear this League a shred.
    3. Taarabt was not our problem last year, that was the clique between Boswinger, Zamora, Cesar etc and Hill, Derry and Mackie etc.
    4. Taarabt has a genuine affiliation with us, he needs the adulation and we need someone to give it to.
    5. The Championship is his league - If it were I in Redknapps "forgetful" shoes I would have him back and show him how to forget all the negativity of last 3 years and now concentrate on this fresh new start, a fresh new life where Adel can be the true Adel.
    6. When you have a player like Adel playing at his best no one gives a ****e about tracking back, including his team mates - FFS, look at what Martinez is doing with Barkley - Can we please play football?

    Your insight into Taarabt is tainted by this wish to be proved right - well, let me tell you something Mr. Queens - when you are playing the parks football with your kids make sure that they watch the clips of Taarabt, Okocha, Bowles, Ibrahimovic beforehand and instruct them to play football in this way, they can always revert afterwards if needs be to playing like Barton, O'Neil and Henry.

    I would love to put a clip of my Under 10s side (Current 7 a side Danish champions), they laugh at this Cockney, Spanish man speaking really bad Danish but getting the message accross that the only thing we have to do in football is love the ball, when we have it we caress, love and excite, without it we fight like crazy to get it back because we need to caress, love and excite. To see youngsters playing their tricks at the right time and moment and playing with freedom is just so much more exciting than watching these other strong, big teams punting it as far as they can.

    Queens/Swords et al you seem like decent enough chaps (certainly ok to share a forum with) - Do yourselves a favour - You live only once, make sure you live it like Lions and not Sheep - yeah the Sheep will live longer in all probability but just no fun.

    You just dont get it do you - It's not Adel we love persay, it's that ability to do something out of the ordinary that fills our hearts with joy and love - We love it when we see other magicians do it - it is not restricted to the RRRRs. But by God we're even more proud when it's one of our own living like a Lion!!!!

    GGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRs
     
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  4. Flanman

    Flanman Well-Known Member

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    Well that shut them up ;)
     
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  5. QPR Oslo

    QPR Oslo Well-Known Member

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    Post of the Year that one Danish. I agree with most of it too! I'd certainly love to see Adel back with us, and given the freedom to play in much the way Colin used him. Playing like that again, I think we'd tear the Championship apart, we'd get promoted again, and with style. Unfortunately it doesn't seem likely Harry will, being the stubborn character he is.
     
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  6. KooPeeArr

    KooPeeArr Well-Known Member

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    Swords has it right when he says that a compilation of the good is as relevant as one of the bad... but it is relevant to this discussion because those that want to love what he has done well (irrespective of consistency) will do so while the ones that want to hate his overall contribution will find the ammo to do so.

    Any player could be rated this way - you could make a video of the best and worst bits of anyone from Messi, Ronaldo, Maldini all the way to Devon White and you could draw whatever you want from it.

    For me, Taarabt can dip massively below the line (usually when trying too hard ironically) but can also rise above it in terms of unrivalled ability.

    I'd prefer the excitement of seeing something that you can't see every week and Adel can definitely do that.

    Seeing a bunch of players doing average things, consistently, over the seasons doesn't thrill me and definitely doesn't fall into the QPR universe that I love.

    BTW Great post Danish!
     
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  7. DaveThomas

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    Danish spot on ... It what I go to watch in football. Harold has rebuilt QPR and credit given I hope his next stage is to entertain but only when we have the foundation. Having Taarabt on this foundation I can only hope for I know.

    Tactics are this simple ... Get the ball and work it to Adel ... Stupid I hear a few say? ... Spurs did exactly that with Bale now he is the world's most expensive footballer.

    Creativity and Freedom to all talent is how i like it.

    QPR ar solid this year ... again credit Harold ... we have not been entertaining (not that i have bothered) ... credit to Flyer he is right about or creativity ... we haven't got any and I believe that's the real reason QPR at LR are now very boring ... we were used to Adel ... It certainly shut up the away end when we all sung his song.

    Of course i would want him back at any terms. He is our Genius
     
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  8. Tramore Ranger

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    On the money Danish.....cracking post
     
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  9. Busy Being Headhunted

    Busy Being Headhunted Well-Known Member

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    I think with Taarabt, our season would be more like Watfords
    Scored more goals and sitting 12th in the league
     
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  10. CroydonCaptainJack

    CroydonCaptainJack Well-Known Member

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    Yes, how anyone can celebrate the demise of this talented player is puzzling to say the least. QPR have had many of these flair players over the years and it is an attractive point about us.
    As I said earlier in this thread, HR won't have him in the team whilst he is manager here and I understand the reasons for that but it is a shame.
     
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  11. danishqp

    danishqp Well-Known Member

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    Take a break now Thicker, that's enough thinking for one day eh!
     
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  12. finglasqpr

    finglasqpr Well-Known Member

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    Well said Danish.

    Thank god the vast majority of QPR fans are with you there.
     
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  13. superHusky1

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    There is no doubt that Adel could be a tremendously frustrating player to watch and he seems to be his own worst enemy at times both on (couple of snippets from Jol's last game in charge illustrated this) and off the pitch. But there also seems little doubt that his creativity and ability would add so much to the current Rangers lineup.

    In general, HR deserves credit for steadying the ship after last season debacle, and whilst Adel must take some portion of the blame for his Fulham exile, it is frustrating that HR couldn't/wouldn't draw the best from our mercurial number 7 (obviously, he wore 10 last season but I preferred him as 7!). Adel has to be made to feel special or otherwise, in my opinion, he can't function to his highest levels. However, I wonder if this is a major part of the problem and one which will, in fact, hinder, or indeed haunt, Adel throughout his footballing career: he has to be the 'main man' in the team, but managers, for whatever reason - though having players of similar or higher calibre must rate as one: e.g. Berbatov - don't place their full trust in Adel and are unwilling to build a team around him. His last outing for Fulham illustrated quite clearly that he hasn't been able to eradicate from his game his fondness for unnecessary overindulgence.

    Having said that, I would love to see Adel back in a Rangers shirt this season (or next's), but I expect both him and HR will have to eat a slice of humble pie which I don't expect to happen.
     
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  14. KPDHoopster

    KPDHoopster Well-Known Member

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    I think the word "Enigma" is very appropriate.

    I dont believe any team should be built solely around 1 player, for the sole reason, is that is not a team.

    I personally would prefer to see the 11 on the pitch, all working hard for each other.

    I admire a player like Clint more than Adel.
     
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  15. Flyer

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    Its the same reason why HH was one of my favourite players, he made the most of his talent and career, so did Hill.
    Hed never have thought in a million years that hed have 2 seasons in the PL.
     
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  16. CannockQPR

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    Wow - been a while since i posted but an Adel Terrorbat thread has sucked me back in...

    I have a huge issue with him, in his head he believes he massively talented and far more skillful than his team mates, and in many ways he is not wrong.

    Unfortunately his brain is wired to think that because of this talent and skill he doesn't need to train properly, eat properly, his team ethos doesn't seem to exist, and there are also many aspects of his game that are poor very poor, BUT the good bits can be brilliant.

    He is as many have already said our Moroccan enigma.

    Looking at our team however, and HR's recent comments about playing 1 or 2 up front, it does make you wonder whether playing a single striker (Austin) upfront with Adel given a free role as an attacking midfielder that his contribution would still have be more effective in assisting us to score goals than we have been so far.

    The question is would the fat lazy ****er side of him have cost us defensively - I'd like to think we have the players around him that could counteract this and so the damage would be more than offset by the creativity up front. I suspect Austin if he could workout what the hell Adel was going to do would love some of the crosses and through balls.

    Sadly I don't think we will find out, HR's record with Adel would seem consistent, loaned and sold him at spurs, same will happen at QPR if we can find someone to buy him and there should be plenty of desperate clubs around in January. But as he has a loan agreement in place with Fulham I can't really see him going anywhere until the summer.

    One note - the spell check on here wants to correct 'Fulham' and make it 'shameful' :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  17. Flyer

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    I agree, this team is set up perfectly for him, we hardly concede but need that spark. Hes good for a goal a game either scored or created in this league.

    Wed be top by a mile if we added a goal to every game so far.
     
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  18. Busy Being Headhunted

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    Henry got dropped for giving the opposition goals in a game
    Taarabt will make the same mistakes every game he plays
    He is 50% skillful and 50% stupid
     
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  19. WBA2_QPR3

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    Sadly harry & adel are too big headed to work it out between themselves

    Id have Adel back in an instant IF i felt he had a more positive attitude

    Hes a flawed genius but hes our flawed genius. He ripped this league up last time remember? Championship player of the season - thats something v few can achieve. Sadly Harry doesnt have the craftiness NW possesses to keep Adel on track

    Have him back? Yes please. I go to see the rangers to be entertained by Adel not bored senseless by O Neill's sideways passing
     
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  20. Flyer

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    Whereas Henry is 0% skillful. people would forgive him for giving goals away if he scored 20 and had 20 assists.
     
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