Disagree with this. Your post was next to answer but please read Sooperhoops excellent response above.
Cheers Rollercoaster. Loving your posts right back. I agree flair again and again and again. It's the only way to overcome dour, drab football. That one moment of magic that makes your stomach fall and your heart pump. Please believe me I get that. I love flair players. I love football played "in the right way". And I would love a flair player with us now who wants to be here. This guy doesn't want to be here.
I can understand the blind loyalty of the Adel Fan Club, as both Roller and Telford say we want to see that fantastic sleight of foot that produces a stunning goal, as he did against Swansea, Cardiff and others last season. The problem is Adel's heart is elsewhere, it has affected his form and, at the higher level he has been found out somewhat. I would take Harry Redknapp's view of a player as being fairly accurate and the fact he'd rarely played Adel and eventually let him go would suggest, at PL level, his overall game is flawed. If Harry can't work the oracle with him who can? In the Championship Adel was indulged and the team covered his lack of work ethic against second-rate defences, in the PL it doesn't work, the quality of the opposition and the threat they pose when the ball is lost mean you cannot have a 'luxury'. He has been putting more effort in since his return and I would agree that we have more creativity when he is in the team but he still isn't making the difference. I would love him to prove me wrong but I think deep down we all know he'll be gone, if not in this window certainly in the summer and that is because he wants to go and has done so from the moment he lifted the Championship trophy...
the only player who seems capable of making something from nothing has his future in the balance leave it out i admit i am a big fan of the sulky one without him we would not be in the prem without him we probably wont be for much longer he has easily been the best playmaker in the last few games it is great to see him getting his body and head fit even my 11 year old man utd supporting son likes to watch him telford...if the so called messiah barton gets tapped up by another team he will be gone before he can press send on twitter i dont think his heart is with qpr tarbs may well leave in the summer but i hope he stays i will enjoy the ride while he is here
Taarabt's future is in his own hands. "Without him we would not be in the Prem". How do you know this? "Without him we probably won't be much longer" How do you know this? "He has easily been the best playmaker in the last few games. It's great to see him get his head and body fit". What was stopping him from doing any of that in the last 6 months? "Even my 11-year old Man Utd supporting son likes to watch him". I think he'll be worrying about something else later today. But hey, if an 11-year old thinks he's good that'll do for me. Maybe they should meet up. Then, when your 11-year old calls him childish and immature, we can blame it on "agents" and "advisors". "telford...if the so called messiah barton gets tapped up by another team he will be gone before he can press send on twitter". I've never, ever called JB "messiah". OOI what do you think I think about him? (BTW if you're on twitter you should follow @The Big _Sam) "i dont think his heart is with qpr". Trust me on this, they're aren't enough rofl, lmfao or pmsl smilies in the world for this statement. "tarbs may well leave in the summer but i hope he stays". See my earlier post. Summary:he can go for nowt as far as I'm concerned.
True enough. As I said earlier he had the entire resources of the club behind him then. What's to say for example, if the team wasn't built towards giving him a platform to perform, we wouldn't have gone up with another team built towards the strengths of other players? This idea of building a team around him was tried at the start of the season against better defences than we found in the Championship and it failed abjectly. He's scored none and assisted none this time out. But, on the plus side he has hit the woodwork once or twice and thrown in some crosses for people who apparently weren't good enough to be there.
Possibly Kiwi and I hope you're right and I'm wrong and he does. I REALLY hope this, despite what was said earlier about people wanting him to fail so they could "feel smug". I don't want this. I'd rather he'd succeed, and by extension Rangers succeed, and I were abashed.
No I wanted to know how you know we wouldn't have been promoted without him? "without him we would not be in the prem". I take your point he was instrumental and agree with it. But without Taarabt the whole set up would have been different. So how can you say with any certainty we wouldn't have gone up without him?
how can you say with any certainty that without him we would have gone up i am quite happy to talk in circles with you all night but your last post made so much more sense
I can't say that with any certainty whatsoever. The difference is I'll admit to that; it's unknown. As is your statement "without him we would not be in the prem".
without the teams top goalscorer LAST YEAR we would still be in the championship what would have happened in any other circumstances is a stupid arguement to have as we will never know what would have happened had tarbs not been there although we could find out soon enough what chance of any of the johnny or joey come latelys hanging around if the worst does happen and we go down this season
I think that this whole Taarabt "yes or no" talk won't be happening for much longer. I fully expect Warnock to go and I cannot see any new manager tolerating him for more than a second. I would not be surprised that if Warnock is offloaded in the next few days Taarabt will not return from ACON. Nobody really knows what has been going on behind the scenes. Unfortunately the papers print such a lot of bullshit that everyone's opinion, one way or the other, on any QPR matter can be supported by some hack's writing in some paper, somewhere, at any time. That's the trick. Print what you like from "insiders" and "sources" and some people will believe it because it suits their point of view. What we cannot do is apportion blame from pure hearsay and speculation. There is no doubt that Adel contributed greatly to our promotion to the Premier League. Whether or not we would have done it without him we will never know. So why argue about it? The comparison with Stan Bowles cannot be made. Football and life were different 35 - 40 years ago. The only thing that one can say is that Stan did the business in the top flight and Adel has not come close ... yet.
