It ain't the sun TBGWTDT - you speak the truth. Taarabt hasn't really missed completing a pass since his return. I could be picky and be a moaner (God forbid!) and say he's too much of a team player now and has lost most of his selfishness (could perhaps try a few more of his petulant nutmegs!!). As I said before, I'm a Taarabt fan and will put my hands up when he goes and throws out the rattle again or gets the bus home, but until then....... I'm still doing the genealogy thing to see if he has an Irish great granny to get him on the Irish Euro 2012 squad....
he must stay. your better team with him and like someone else said 6mil is nuffing what with the money you have to give us
This looks like wisdom, but anyone actually paying attention during the Arsenal game would realise that Adel was played wide for most of the game: yet he still managed to produce our most dangerous pass (for SWP) and force their keeper into a full length save. As for the assists, DJ should've scored against Utd, a brilliant cross against Norwich across the 6 yard box waiting to be tapped in - only problem that HH was, for some bizarre reason, lurking at the far post for a lofted cross. Goals might be more of an issue, but he has hit the post v Wigan and drawn a number of excellent saves from opposition keepers. He must stay. Simple as that.
What like Nurse and medications Dish it no problem ... Take it much harder it seems IMO Taarabt hadn't lost any form as a player you dont lose that gift Team also hasn't been doing well without him ... Wigan game Chelsea game Everton game plus most of the others he played in he was as good as anyone IMO You have a very weak argument I would love Barton to prove me wrong but he hasn't yet plus for him to come out on twitter and state that he was shocked how good Ali was and he hadn't seen anything from Taarabt was unprofessional and was noted throughout French soccer to which Taarabt was questioned time and time again ... He lost no form at all I admit he looks sharper at the moment but he was frozen out the truth is IMO 25% Taarabt 75 % others fault including Barton Wannock agents etc In France he was directly quoted as saying what will be will be ? Having just lost the armband . This is my opinion and it's based on the facts as I have seen them Taarabt leaves QPR then IMO we ****ed up big time
Link please. Why would I be a fool for wanting somebody out who clearly doesn't want to be here? Don't believe me? Then listen to someone who's there:"...we all know that he wants to go somewhere else, weâve known that since the last kick of last season.". http://www.london24.com/sport/champ...ecting_taarabt_departure_in_january_1_1147427 Why am I "not QPR". I've seen too many players come and go over the years (including DT himself btw) to get too fussed about this guy. Chairmen have come and gone. Managers () have come and gone. Great, really great players, have come and gone. The only constant is us the fans. It goes without saying, bar the glory hunters, this is true for every team in the land. We'll be here as long as we breathe. So please don't tell me I'm "not QPR" because I don't buy into the unjustified hype surrounding a transient badge-kisser who'd rather get on a 220 than see out the second half of a horrible defeat with the rest of the team and fans. Why aren't you the "complete fool"? Bend over for Adel? And I'll leave you with that thought when you hopefully reconsider your remark about knowing "**** all about football". . "That player" is a twat imo. QPR has been about many things in my lifetime. Talented football yes sometimes when we've been lucky enough to have the boardroom, the manager and the players for this. When we haven't, as we all know, it's often been a grim struggle for survival. We are not a "big club" and our cloth has often been cut according to our means, i.e. crappy football. On gates and stadia alone we are the smallest team in the Premiership. See these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011–12_Premier_League#Stadia_and_locations http://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/attendance/_/league/eng.1/barclays-premier-league?cc=5739 Since Taylor football has changed beyond recognition. We've gone backwards by standing still, at best, and we have a lot of catching up to do. No he wasn't. He was good but not the best on the park. What do you know about his "treatment with Barton"? There is imo a very disturbing narrative developing here with the Adel lovers, and the gist is this; NW and JB have "ganged up" on Taarabt and somehow prevented him from flowering as the true football legend he believes himself to be. Wrong. This would be the Taarabt who was involved in 0-4 and 0-2 defeats to the bottom two before JB was even in the picture yes? With the team set up like it was last season yes? But yeah you're right he probably is our saviour. I'll repeat for the hard of thinking HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE HERE. (But, on the plus side, when he's gone off to join the pantheon of football greats I will be). Really ain't bothered about the cash mate, just want him gone. He can leave for nothing as far as I'm concerned. Yes he was instrumental in our promotion but Robbie Savage exposed the dangers of building a team around him last season. And, it should also be asked, in all this talk of us "owing" him, what does he owe us? Our entire resources were devoted last season to giving him the platform to perform at his very best, gloves on the floor an' all. He helped get us there, we gave him his stage. If the best he can do is Celtic or Qatar is that not telling you what this guy's like? How many Prem. or La Liga teams are in for him? But yeah, you're probably right. As for the story being "worse", see Bolton and Wigan. I'll repeat again for the hard of thinking, HE DOES'T WANT TO BE HERE. However, if you're up for it, we'll petition the club. Something along the lines of: "We the undersigned believe that Adel Taarabt should be drip-fed peeled, seedless grapes by Horrible Joey Barton while Nasty Neil gives him a foot-rub." How's that? Does that work for you? HE DOES'T WANT TO BE HERE. Not even close mate. If he were, why aren't they queuing up for him? Probably true. "Taarabt hadnât exactly had the brightest of starts to life back in Englandâs top flight, but when he was taken off at half time of their defeat to Tottenham at the weekend, it spoke loudly that even Neil Warnock is beginning to lose faith. No goals, no assists, and just 40% of his attempted shots on target, for someone who supposedly poses an attacking threat,..." http://thefootballproject.net/2011/11/02/is-adel-worth-the-trouble/ http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/866798-qprs-adel-taarabt-keen-on-newcastle-transfer http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footba...aims-arsenal-and-chelsea-have-been-in-contact http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footba...-and-may-join-friends-at-arsenal-neil-warnock http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footba...-and-may-join-friends-at-arsenal-neil-warnock http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footba...aarabt-walkout-after-6-0-demolition-at-fulham http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/879526-adel-taarabt-warns-qpr-to-expect-new-psg-transfer-offer http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footba...spect-of-qpr-january-exit-with-napoli-remarks And that's just trawling through articles on one paper. Oh and yeah Joey Barton is the real destabilising force in the dressing room. But yeah you're probably right, Dr Pepper anyone?
A well-constructed appraisal Telford, it's hard to argue with a 'playmaker' stat after five months of the season that reads Goals 0, Assists 0 from 15 appearances including 3 as sub. No doubt the Adel Fan Club will shout from the rooftops 'there are lies, damn lies and statistics', but Adel is employed to create and score goals and the team was, in the first 9 or 10 games, set up to give him a platform to do this. He has failed and, whether it is by the width of a post or a spectacular save, he hasn't done it for us THIS season. A few weeks ago the OPTA stat for left-sided midfielders was discussed on Talksport and Adel was bottom of the list. No-one here wanted Adel to fail, in fact it was the opposite, he was supposed to be our talisman but has been the albatross round our necks. His disrespect of our club and his team-mates in the summer was clear for all to see. At the earliest opportunity he ran off to slag off our team to the French press, (strange how he talks so much to them but not ours) and dismiss our team as not good enough for him. When we strengthened the team his big nose was suddenly put out of joint not being the big fish anymore and a few home truths from Barton have upset his fragile equilibrium. I think it was Eamon who, at that time, likened him to a man with the mind of a ten year old, very accurate. He has put in a few better performances since coming back into the team but his heart is not in our club and posters such as DT and Col who blindly cheerlead for him should realise he is part of the problem not the solution.
Yeah totally Sooperhoop. I think the point you raise about none of us wanting him to fail has to be stressed again and again. I really wanted the guy to do well. He is ridiculously talented and I have no problem agreeing to that. My concern is in both his application and his dedication to the club for however long he is here. As I said above, we all know we are not the biggest club by any stretch of the imagination, and how could we ever resent a good servant of the club moving on for the betterment of their career? Look at Sir Les; class act on and off the field giving us his best till the end and always got a good reception whenever he returned. Taarabt could learn a lot from him. I really don't mind if he wants to go. I just want him to show some sort of commitment while he is here and give us his best. He has definitely perked up in the last few weeks, but the cynic in me is thinking it's the transfer window and impending ACN with all the talent scouts there. The most damaging thing for me in all of this is how it seems to be dividing us into pro-Taarabt & anti-Warnock/Barton camps (and vice-versa) -and I know I've fallen into it. It's a side-show we don't need.
Good post Telford, you clearly have put a lot of thought and effort into it and it is greatly appreciated. While I wouldn’t argue with anything that you have said, there is one point you have chosen to overlook. Without him in the team we look flat and predictable, we have no spark, no flair and no imagination. I will freely admit that I have reversed my position of Taarabt, I now want him to play and pray he will come good, I can’t see how we can gather enough points without that happening.
For those of you old enough & fortunate enough to remember a certain S Bowles in the 70's gracing our team will recall he wasn't actually a paragon of hard work & commitment yet he is still the most talented English player I have ever seen. Admittedly he was surrounded by high quality players but his attitude was tolerated and he was accommodated within the team structure as his genius was the difference between us being mid-table and coming so so close to winning the league. Adel could & should have a major impact on our fortunes but he is a confidence player & the management need to figure out a system & playing staff that will get the best out of him. Think our issue is that NW isn't a good enough tactician to get the best out of him & the team in a premier league environment. Therein lies our biggest issue
Taarabt and Traore are our two best players. The rest of the squad isn't worth the half of them. The Stan Bowles analogy is a good one. Would break my heart if Taarabt left, Barton has ****ed his head up and Warnock should never have taken the captaincy away from him. Total f*ck up.
Telford I haven't the time to challenge the points which are incorrect on your very good post. In short QPR need a flair player if we are to continue our traditions I get very cross about the comments made to a genius in our shirt X
Personally I don't understand all the hostility towards AT; so he said some silly things during the summer, GET OVER IT!!! By a clear country mile, AT has been our most potent threat in the last few matches. Alright he's not scored, true enough. But criticizing him for not having any assists is slightly ridiculous - he can't get on the end of his own cross can he? Clearly the opportunities he created against Utd and Norwich should have been converted by the strikers. In short, he can't be blamed for other players bad finishing or positioning. People keep claiming they want to see him do well; I'm not so sure, seems like you wanna see AT fail so you can be proved right and feel smug. Huge gaff if we let this guy go.
FFS - did you want Rodney and Stanley sold for a pittance as well. We have one genuine world class talent, who like 10's behind him from Stanley to Best to Gascoine to Charlie George and many others have extreme talent and extreme personal problems. You got to nurture them, mollycuddle them, whatever, but do it, keep them. They, and Adel is in this bracket, can give us success (17th this year) and get people comimg through the turnstiles, or do you prefer to watch some seven foot defender kicking the ball 1000 yards out the ground every time he gets the ball?
Obviously not, but neither do I wish to see "a genuine world-class talent" (your words ) sat at a bus stop 400-yards away having neither the balls nor heart to see out a horrible defeat while the rest of his team-mates and the fans do exactly that.
To understand my hostility please understand he didn't just spend the summer batting his eyelashes at potential suitors. He did it throughout the autumn too. Not to mention the one-man walk out at Craven Cottage. Or the hissy fit before and after the Chelsea penalty. Great team player no? I'd agree that he's upped his game over the last few matches, but I'll always remain cynical as to why. What strikers do you think we should have? Given the massive opportunities afforded us in the last window, I'd say we got what FB and BE thought what they could get away with while their investment matured. I'm not now, nor ever, holding him accountable for the players with whom he plays. I will always question his attitude because it stinks imo. And by people "claiming" they want to see him do well just for the satisfaction of being smug after he fails, do you mean me? Oh well fair cop guv you got me bang to rights and all.Just for the hell of it, and to put myself on the record once and for all on the subject, I want Taarabt to fail. There you go I've said it. Yes there's an evil conspiracy "out there" of non-believers and I'm at the head. The next time a Hollywood shot thunks into row 26, I'll be there going "mwhahahaha", laughing maniacally, stroking my fluffy white cat and dreaming of world domination. Or, alternatively, I'll be scratching my head in bewilderment at why anybody on this planet thinks this guy, WHO DOESN'T WANT TO BE HERE, and has always played for his own ends is the answer to our prayers.
Please challenge me. Brix said the other day wrt one of the Norwich threads something along the lines of "you won't change somebody's point of view" and he is right. I don't want to change your point of view, I want you to tell me where I'm wrong so I can challenge my own POV. Don't just tell me I'm wrong in your opinion, tell me why I'm wrong.
The comparison with Stan is an insult to the best player to wear the hoops. Adel has had one successful season with us in the equivalent of the old 2nd Division which is the only comparison you can make with Stan, who continued to do the business for years afterwards in the top flight. Stan didn't spend his time rubbishing the club or looking for a big-money move, he was the maverick of the team but very much a team man. He still has links with the club that have been maintained for decades, when Adel goes you'll never hear from him again other than to slag us off...
The Bowles analogy is rubbish. Football, and the world, has moved on from the Seventies. What footballers earn now against what they earned then would be one example. How has Barton "****ed his head up"? What do you know about this? I'm not asking as a some kind of smartass. I genuinely want to know. What do you know? Taarabt wanted away from here long before Barton showed up. Traore is excellent. No LB though imo. I'd love to see him as as an attacking LM ahead of a solid LB.
You beat me to it again . Mods here's a suggestion. How about two stickies. One for the Taarabt Appreciation Society. They can watch endless YouTube links of Adel dismantling woeful Championship defences with the entire (limited) resources of another Championship club behind him. The second can be a thread where anybody who questions the wisdom of "building a team" around somebody who doesn't want to be here can make their concerns heard without accusations of not "being QPR" or similar rubbish.
