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  1. Wonko The Sane

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    Torres?
     
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  2. BrixtonR

    BrixtonR Well-Known Member

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    I like SWP. It'll definitely come good for him - when he learns to look ahead at what's occuring, wrong foot a couple of defenders - and then release the simple ball to someone in a better position.

    That's what he used to do - and no reason why he can't now.
     
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  3. Rs So Hounslow

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    I always rated SWP whenever he played for us, the opening games he played in were played at supersonic speed. He would run after everything.
    The problem SWP's is having, may not even be of his making: how many times have balls been crossed for him, that are so high, that even Betty would struggle to reach them?
    SWP needs to run up and down the wing, attack the pen area, and to stop trying to out-head oppos who are over 5"8.

    COYRsssssssss
     
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  4. Peter Damage

    Peter Damage Well-Known Member

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    He tries hard but that's not enough for me. We need more than that.

    I think it is completely wrong to be classed as fickle for criticising him. My problem with him is that he is in the team on reputation and should be on the bench now. He is costing us points because he is not contributing enough and the complaints about him are completely justified.

    Name me one game where he has played well?!

    Hughes is putting too much faith in him hoping for him to come good but we’ve been waiting for that all season and need to give others a game instead. Perfect example was the last game where he spent most the game playing centre mid after Samba went off. That was a ludicrous decision!! He has been a poor right mid this season so playing him in centre midfield was crazy.

    Put him on the bench and bring him on as an impact sub as he has proved not that he is worth now more than that for us.
     
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  5. QPR Oslo

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    I think SWP is getting too much criticism on here. He is not doing what we all I think hoped and expected him too, getting past defenders and getting in good crosses, and scoring a few goals. But especially considering he seems to have been played out of his best position by both NW and MH, he has done an OK job, particularly working back defensively.

    But I do agree he will surely be on the bench soon, if not tomorrow, when Cisse and Diakite are back for Bolton. Maybe coming on as Sub will fire him up so we get a goal from him, then he just could get a few!
     
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  6. FFS.73

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    Brix, totally agree he's a nice guy, gives his all, and is occasionally capable of being very exciting. But what makes you think that at age 30 he is going to learn anything? I have not been disappointed in him this year as he has played like this ( with better luck sometimes) for all of his career. Not his fault, but it's why he has been a sub at bigger clubs for much of his career. Sparky just needs to get him playing at the top end of his limitations, or we need to recognize that his role is to track back and irritate opponents when they are in possession rather than be an out and out winger.
     
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  7. Dave Thomas

    Dave Thomas Active Member

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    I am extremely proud to be a QPR supporter as we have an outstanding squad of players now Faith should be automatic in ALL our players (even Barton) as this team comes together slowly. SWP to me is an outstanding professional footballer and is focussed every game at QPR.

    I can't express how upsetting it is to see our fans turn on our team (apart from Barton he has to live and die by the sword)
     
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  8. Jammers

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    For those saying he is not good enough or has been poor this season, who would you have played in his place or who would you bring in to drop him for?

    Whilst he has been far from his best, he still offers something going forward, is determined and hard working and for me, is better than any other options we have for the same position.
     
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  9. QPR Oslo

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    Jammers! I'd prefer us to be playing 4 -2 -3- 1 with Cisse on the right side of the 3 when he's back, Traore, Taiwo or Adel left side of the 3, Adel or Buzacky in the centre of the 3, with Zamora or HH up front. I don't see a starting place for SWP in this with Cisse back. If we play 4-4-2 then probably he has a better chance of starting on the right side of midfield.
     
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  10. Jammers

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    Our holding mids are not good enough to support this formation me thinks ;o) Diakite and Barton could maybe do the job, but Taiwo and Traore for me are more LB, LWB, LM not AML...Adel could play AML, SWP in the centre and Cisse on the right?...Taiwo and Traore fight it out for LB start

    edit: to be honest, for me the 442 works better considering the players we have...we just need a few of them to hit form!
     
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    Flyer Well-Known Member

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    So youd put our best finisher wide right? Are you Ian Holloway?!
     
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  12. Jammers

    Jammers Active Member

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    Who me, or Oslo?
     
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    Flyer Well-Known Member

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    Both since you both said it and you are saying SWP in the middle.
     
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  14. QPR Oslo

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    In the 4 -2 -3 -1, I'd like Barton and Diakite, when back, to be playing defensive midfield. I think this system better protects our porous defense, plus provides Adel with solid defensve back up behind him when playing in the centre of the 3.

    What is "AML"?
     
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  15. Jammers

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    I wouldnt play the left and right side of the 3 wide, I would play them narrow...we clearly have an issue with getting decent crosses in so lets play to our strengths! ;o) Cisse can push up into strikers position when Zamora/Helgy drops to hold up the ball etc. You could of course move SWP out on the right and play Cisse through the middle in front of Zamora/Helgy and hell, you could have all 3 revolving and swapping...I was just thinking out loud and debating the situ with Oslo...

    AML = attacking midfielder left...

    ps. What was wrong with Ian Holloway...great manager for us. Guess I should take that as a compliment ;o)~
     
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  16. QPR Oslo

    QPR Oslo Well-Known Member

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    Wide right as start position yes, but with flluidity and expectation on him to be getting into the box with Zamora or HH. Same with whoever plays left side of the 3. SWP in the middle? Not for me, or the left come to that!
     
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  17. Flyer

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    Left wing. Hughes is a 442 man, we will play that or maybe a 4411 if we dont have 2 forwards.
     
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  18. Flyer

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    SWP can only play on the right, cant see why our managers have failed to see that.

    By playing 4231, we negate the attacking threat of our best finisher who doesnt like playing on the right.
     
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    Our best crosser of the ball is Traore I think, which is why I'd like to see him playing left side of the 3. I can see him playing quite wide to get crosses in, Cisse on the other side less wide, and expected to get more into the box.
     
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  20. Jammers

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    Have to agree with Flyer in respect of the 442...be nice to see us mix it up when its not working though and maybe adopt the 4231 approach (or anything different!)
     
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