Surely the two are comparable Just checked.... Anarkali is right, so how was the other spelled? I never went "thirsty" on those occasions, so that didn't help
7/11 up caerethin Best chinky on middle rd Black n white tiles in the penlan club No women upstairs in the embassy Dad n gramps getting sh1t faced in the armine Playing fuzzy duck in the kings head treboeth The boy being amazed seeing a sofa in a front garden up rhodfar brain Riding the horses behind nans in gendros Me n dad up Brian’s to get our hair cut (the same) Learning to drive on the rec Smoking dope listening to comfortably numb riding up n down the kingsway in an Opal kadet The ritzy Martha’s Shagging sisters in the van up Bonymaen Falling out of dads car on pentregethin rd Falling out the boat in singleton Opening the curtains in Mel nurses b&b on oystermouth rd on to a brick wall “These are some of my fav-our-ite things...”
I asked an old guy and he said if you stood outside Harper's looking at Oxford st crossing in front of you then the Bombay grill was across the road in front of you, where the road runs down to oystermouth rd now.
What was the Indian takeaway up by the station on the left if you walked up to Dyfatty? I’m sure if it were open then the health inspector would have shut it down. I liked the Asian Grill just by Hapers and the Chinese opposite the YMCA.
Copper Grill Burlington Restaurant Treasure David Evans Plaza cinema Terminus pub Nash Sports Station Inn Mackworth Langdon pub London pub
Swansea a century ago possessed over 228 licensed premises High Street Prince of Wales, Barber Court Antelope, Barley Mow Court Royal Hotel Three Crowns Recruiting Officer King Arms, Tower Lane Ivorities Arms, Regent Court Golden Lion, Davies Court Cawdor Arms, Daniel Court Great Western Hotel, Howell Court South Wales Hotel Station Inn White Swan Old Willow Tree Lower Lamb Coach and Horses, Margaret Court Stout House Old Duke Ancient Briton Lord Nelson Upper Cock Glamorgan Arms Black Cock Hotel The Thistle Welsh Oak, Mansel St. Georges Steps True Briton, Baptist Court Adam and Eve, Union Court Red Cow Inn Bird in Hand, Union Court, Morris Lane Old Ivy Bush Bush Hotel Working Men’s Club Cameron Arms Wind Street Duke Hotel Mackworth Arms Adelphi Hotel, Anchor Court Scotch Hero The Coloseum. Star Music Hall Bank Hotel The Vaults George Hotel George Hotel Tap Ship Hotel, Salubriuous Passage Fulton Dunlop & Co Victoria Hotel, Castle Square Castle Hotel Swansea Club Oxford Street Waterloo Hotel White Hart Jeffrey’s Arms Oxford Inn Mansell Arms Plymouth Inn (Criterion) Dillwyn Hotel (Swansea Castle) < photo > Malsters Arms Joiners Arms Exeter Hotel Crystal Palace Kings Head Heathfield Inn Swansea Arms Corporation Inn Temple Spirit Vaults, Theatre Royal Brookland Hotel Builders Arms Union Street Dillwyn Arms Union Inn Gower Inn Glamorgan Arms Music Hall Tavern Six Bells Park Inn, Park Street West End Inn Rutland Street L. and N.W. Hotel Railway Hotel Black Horse Inn Rutland Arms Terminus Hotel Nags Head Tap Orchard Street OddFellows Inn New Recruit College Street Queen Victoria Fulton, Dunlop & Co Wyndham Arms Castle Bailey Street Wheatsheaf Lion Hotel Bowega Hotel Fisher Street York Hotel Temperance Hotel Pavilion Inn Hope and Anchor Talbot Arms Royal Oak Frog Street Farmers Arms Caer Street Butchers Arms Apple Tree Inn Vernon Arms Alhambra Vaults St Ives Inn Calvert Street Lord Nelson Rose and Crown Orange Street Jersey Arms Orange Tree Inn Crowshurst Brewery Black Lion Brewers Arms Royal Albert Temple Street Three Lamps The Strand Cambrian Arms Cardiff Arms Crown and Anchor Eagle Inn George Inn Globe Inn Green Dragon Inn Liverpool Arms Cornish Mount Inn, Broadquay Neptune Inn Pelican Inn Ship and Castle Shipping Gazette Inn The Griffin Tiger Inn Three Mariners Welcome to Town Goat Street White Lion The Compass Tavern Stogumper Tavern Nag’s Head St Mary Street Cross Keys Inn Exchange Brewery The Raven Duke of Wellington Hudson Temperance Hotel Miscellaneous Flint House Inn Museum Inn Troubador Inn, Broadquay Popit Hill Tavern, Gibbert Hill Woolpack, Gore Court Carmarthen Arms Alma Inn, Back Street Shades Tavern, Salubrious Passage Station Inn, Fabian Street Red House, Fabian Street Miers Arms, Fabian Street Windsor Arms, Delhi Street Fuel Inn, Thomas Street Ivy Bush, Thomas Street Druid Arms, Mariner Street Bunch Of Grapes, Mariner Street Leopard Arms, Mariner Street Dynevor Arms, Langdon Place Langdon Arms, Langdon Place Mason’s Arms, Llangyfelach Street Rifleman Inn, Foxhole Ship Inn, Foxhole Centre Hotel, Somerset Place Christopher Hotel, Somerset Place Stafford Arms, Garden Street Gardener’s Arms, Garden Street Wellington, Garden Street Jersey Arms, Neath Road Smith’s Arms, Neath Road Bricklayer’s Arms, Fleet Street Robin Hood Hotel, Fleet Street Hearts of Oak Inn, Brynmelin Street St. Georges Inn, Walter Road Argyle Inn, Oystermouth Road Copenhagen Tavern, Sloane Street Compass Inn, Pentregethin Clarendon Inn, Bond Street Belle Vue Inn, St. Helen’s Road Bath Hotel, Trafalgar Terrace Brunswick Inn, 3 Duke Street Smithfield Inn, Graig Street Westbourne Hotel, Brynymor Terrace Boar’s Head, Gower Street Waun Wen Inn Albion Inn, Greenfield Street Thames Tunnel Inn, Bath Place Railway Inn, Villiers Street Shipping Hotel, Dunvant Place Cuba Inn, North Dock Gloster Hotel, Gloster Place Unity Inn, James Street Uplands Inn, Glanmor Terrace Hop Pole Inn, Edward Street St Helen’s Inn, Burrows Road Brewers’ Vaults, Mysydd Road Maliphant Inn, Maliphant Street Royal Oak, Vivians’ Town Mountain Dew, Terrace Road Hafod Inn Britannia Inn, Powell Street Black Horse Inn, Dyfatty Street Rising Sun Inn, Matthew Street Upper Lamb Thistle, High Street Adelaide Hotel Oystermouth Inn Troed-y-Rhiw Inn, Cwmbwrla Blue Bell Inn, Camrthen Road Sea Beach Inn, Lachlan Caswell Inn, Camden Place Tredegar Inn, Rodney Street Lamb and Flag, Princess Street Railway Inn, Cwmbwrla Cwmbwrla Inn Burrows Inn, Adelaide Street Anchor Inn, South Prospect Beaufort Arms, Ferryside Arches Hotel, Quay Parade Shakespeare Hotel < photo > Clarence Hotel, William Street Oddfellows Tavern, Wellington Street Royal Standard, Hafod Fountain Inn, Camarthen Road Tenby Inn
Good God Boundy. ...... you must have been in state at times, being familiar with all those ........... I bet you could publish a book, Bet it would be a great read, especially if you would have had a pint in each! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
But why so many Joneses? When about 500 years ago the Welsh were asked to take on a system of fixed surnames on the English pattern of Jackson and Greenfield and so on, they were asked to have a fixed surname and to pass that surname on to all their descendants. The Welsh were asked, 'Well, what is the thing that gives you status in your society?' And they said, 'Well we don't want nicknames, we don't want trade names. The only thing that we think of as important is our father's name.' And so they were asked, 'Well what is your father's name?' And they would say,' Well my name is John and my father is Gruffydd.' 'Alright. Well you will be John Griffiths.' And the other one would say, 'Well my father is John.' So they would say, 'Well you are to be John Jones In exactly the same period, there was a period of streamlining and simplifying the Christian name. And this happened all over Europe, by the way, not just in Wales. But it had a very, very bad effect upon Welsh names because instead of having this magnificent variety of hundreds of ancient pagan names like Llywarch and Gwalchmai, which were — I mean Llywarch was the name of an ancient Celtic pagan god. And — or having a huge number of Catholic devotional names like Gwasdewi (the devotee of St David) or Gwasmeir (the devotee of the Virgin Mary) or Gwasmihangel (the follower of St Michael the archangel). Instead of having this huge variety of Catholic names and pagan names, people became very frightened and nervous as to what should be given as a name, and people invented a short catalogue of safe respectable names. And there were only about a dozen of them. A few safe Biblical names like John, Thomas and David, and a few safe royal names like Richard, Edward, Henry. That was the only sort of name that was safe to give. About a dozen names. So the great tragedy was that at the very time that the Welsh were being forced by the clerks of the courts or the parsons of the parishes to take fixed surnames, it was the very time when the Welsh were being forced to take a very very small range of names. So there were hundreds and hundreds of people being forced to take fixed surnames at the very time when there were hundreds and hundreds of fathers being given the name John. So their children, also probably John, landed up in three generations, instead of being Llywarch ap Gwalchmai ap Gwasmihangel, they ended up being John Jones. And that's all. John Jones. Hundreds and hundreds of John Jones.
