If you want to play penny a point - fine. Expect penny a point quality. If you want high quality you have to pay to play high stakes. Our ground is one of the smallest in the PL and as such the income generated form it is peanuts. The income from tiny add ons is peanuts. My attacks are on fans who seem to want something for nothing and give the team very little vocal support during games. I dislike the plastics who turn out for the 'big teams' and their 'other' teams then 'rent out' their season ticket to friends for the Huddersfields and Brightons of the EPL. (Photo id season tickets should be an absolute must imo.) My only personal connection with the club (or any of its directors, share holders or staff) has been though the turnstile and in putting in some money (no where near what I could have, should have or match what others put in) when the trust bought out Penny. Is it so difficult to understand not all fans believe the conspiracy theories or might have the kind of management experience that gives an insight in to 'the other side'? I get the sentiment that if someone isn't with you they must be against you but again that's bollocks. We have different perspectives - live with it. Swansea City is my club, my only club, and has been for nearly 60 years but only if I chose it to be. Anyone who believes Swansea City is their club in any material sense is deluding themselves. When I look at the situation what I see is people who can doing (something) and people who can't moaning about it. Are those in charge doing what I want? No. But I'm not risking a fortune. They are not behaving like fans because they are not. Behaving like fans got us to a position where fans were calling for professional take over of the running of the club ... well , this is the start of putting the club on a professional footing. And it costs. Who's cap doffing or a sell out? I am a realist. I am not over the moon about the Americans buying the majority share but appreciate that without the Yanks the club would not have been sold (there were no realistic alternatives), we would not have had the financial background or backing to take out loans at acceptable levels, even more players would have had to be sold to balance the books. I don't have a problem with people making some money from providing a service, doing a job or as a return on a financial risk. When I look at the situation what I see is people who can doing (something) and people who can't moaning about it. The only other option to 'selling out' was to go into the red - big time. How many fans would we get to save the clung next time round? The answer to that lies in the stands for 'meaningless' League and FA Cup games. http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...wansea-citys-finances-explained-26th-10815256
You say you've been a supporter for 60 years ? then you'll well remember the days of re election, Struel Sharpe, Silver Shield, Mike Lewis ,Petty etc ( I don't know why you're referring to the Trust buying Pennys shares unless that's a freudian slip on your behalf and you're mixed up with the on-going court case ) so you'll have seen the depths this Club has fallen to in the past some were caused by the quality of the playing staff , poor management decisions , financial wrong doings and supporter apathy but this period we're now entering we've never experienced before ,ownership based purely on financial gain , You're repeatedly ignore the fact that it is the ownership is at fault . the writing on the wall came when the Directors of the Club decided to award them selves nice fat dividends but still clung to the idea and heavily promoted it that the club was being run for the fans by the fans , bullshit , Jenkins Morgan Van Zewdan Dineen and co were speculators not investors for their initial contribution ( which I may add was less than Mel Nurses contribution) they have more then made back 100 fold and continue to do so . "professional take over of the running of the club ... well , this is the start of putting the club on a professional footing. And it costs." What professionals do we actually have running the Club , a chairman who's extremely limited ability in scouting players but has publically stated he has the final say on the type of player we need We now have a guy bought in to improve the commercial side of the Club and by all accounts there's been a improvement but what's the point of having two shops of over priced tat when we don't have a team worthy of wearing the shirt . the financial background or backing to take out loans at acceptable levels, What financial background , you seem so certain that they're the best we could have had to buy the Club exactly how much of their money have they spent on improving the team ? (there were no realistic alternatives), so a Chinese consortium who wanted to invest in the Club but were denied even the opportunity to speak to Jenkins and co let along put their proposals were dismissed out of hand , but we don't need to guess why that happened , the sell outs wanted to cash in an dthe Chinese idn't want to buy shares which wasn't part of the plan was it I don't have a problem with people making some money from providing a service, doing a job or as a return on a financial risk. What financial risk have they made , they've bought the Club at a knock down price , they've not spent a penny on improving the squad ,they've made money on key players without replacing them . They've managed to add a financial debt to the Club by buying the lease off the council so they can obtain the financial rewards when the sell the naming rights and we have a couple of years of parachute payments which will be redirected into they accounts via consultancy fees and the such like . You continue to cling to your idea it's all the fans fault if it gives you comfort .I'm just glad you're in the minority because the Club doesn't need you
Apologies for the Trust slip I was mixing it up with Trust Membership. The owners are partly to blame but try performing when you are getting no response from those who profess to support you! Aren't the Trust significant owners? The Yanks are majority share holders. OK, in effect they can do much as they please but what exactly do they own? Running the club? Jenkins, like it or not, is a professional and has how many years experience running the club? Pearlman! We have acess to the Kaplan / Levein backers and their support personnel. I'm not sure what is expected by those who say we need a 'professional' running the club. IWhen Jenkins goes the CEO it is likely to be Pearlman, Donovan or Olsen. When the intention to sell the club became known it was greeted with a mixture of joy and horror. From memory (which can be shaky) the trust was not happy to sell out and therefore only a part sale could take place - i.e. selling majority shares. Fans were demanding investment and a larger capacity at the Liberty (many wanted to by the ground). The shareholders could not put in funds nor would they or could they have borrowed beyond the agreed overdraft without endangering bankruptcy. Moores/Noell turned their attention to Everton (Moores - previously made £90 million for selling his shares in Liverpool & Noell more iterated in horses) strung out the Toffees for a couple of years until Bill Kenwright decided they were time wasters. The Chinese Consortium The only other interest was shown (after three years of speculation and it being known the Swans might be for sale) came from Peter Zhang who headed his own SinoFortone investment company. Even a quick search shows this company was Zhang was a schyster His multi billion£ projects in the UK have so far yielded a pub in the country. ('Sir Richard Heygate, a former McKinsey partner, was briefly a director at SinoFortune. Sir Richard, 77, resigned last month. "Peter (Zhang) is a nice guy but he believed he could create a private vehicle for raising money without having any capital himself, and I just thought was impossible - a crazy idea," Sir Richard said.") https://www.theyworkforyou.com/sp/?id=2017-03-29.14.0 'You continue to cling to your idea it's all the fans fault if it gives you comfort .I'm just glad you're in the minority because the Club doesn't need you' Nope - never said it was all the fans fault - My point has been simple - when the team / club is in trouble we the fans must support the team. The rest is politics. And who are you to deceide on what the club needs? Does it need fans who whine about paying a fair price to keep the club going? Or fans who boo our own players at the start of games? (I don't say I've supported the Swans for 60 years - I HAVE supported the Swans for nearly 60 years.)
