You're wrong. I hate sharp practice in business even if it's legal because ultimately it hurts your reputation and that counts for a hell of a lot imo.
I've repeatedly said that I disagree with the tactics. I'm not trying to justify anything. You didn't see that, clearly. It's not really how much he's worth...it's how much he's sold for in the deal. I can sell my sofa tomorrow for free. Doesn't mean it's worth nothing. If the previous owner (my brother in this case) had a 30% buy on clause and I sold it for nothing, he'd get nothing. Whether it's worth £100 or £1,000,000. He'd be super pissed off with me though. I absolutely, unequivocally disagree with the club if they've done something of the sort. You're still assuming that Tottenham would only sell Gylfi for £8m or more though. That's cash. But you put in a player into the deal, a player that they actually want, and it can change the value of the deal. Maybe the value of having Vorm in their squad was, for them, worth dropping the price by £2m. Who knows? I genuinely feel like you're arguing with me over nothing. I'm not defending the club on this. I'm just saying that there are clearly legal loopholes to get out of buy-out clauses. Should we be using them? Absolutely not. And if we have, I'm extremely disappointed in the board.
Yes very naughty of Swansea IF true!................... Huw Jenkins: "I'm not going to go into the details, but we did what we did within the rules and in the right way. The deal with Spurs we were happy to do for a variety of reasons, for the football club, and we felt it was right. Ben Davies was involved in that and Vorm was involved in that deal with Gylfi coming in and I'm not going to go into detail but we're quite happy and comfortable with what we've done with Spurs. We don't see any problems at all." "My overview on it is they've decided to rely on money coming in to run their club, and that's their decision. When you've got a sell-on, we've got full rights to sell a player in the UK we don't have third party ownership, which you have in Spain and Holland. As far we're concerned it's done and dusted. Utrecht have sent some kind of statement into FIFA - we just await any response they have."
Quite right.. Or we might have sold Vorm for £4 mn and Ben for nearer his value £12 mn (still a bargain) and bought Siggy for his market, value at the time, £6 mn. £1.4 million to Utrecht £8.6 profit.
You called? Seeing Project's pouty post again reminds me that, in addition to "not being able to dig half a hole",one can't be "half an idiot".
.....We will not be paying out anything of substance in my view, given Vorm's drop in valuation, if anything at all, so you are going to be disappointed Vetch, if you think Jenkins is going to have a big fine and slapping, never mind 'Garry Monks Barmy army'............
Just because the dutch club say we are wrong does not make it so. we say they are wrong so whats the difference. jinx is happy that he has done nothing wrong so that's good enough for me....
Been on a few websites, nobody is talking about as far as fans from other clubs are concerned. In fact the Playstation forums has a football threads with tens of thousands of posts... it was me who told them about this and they said it was shrewd business and a genious move.... until an Arsenal fan said it was a fairly common thing in other countries. There will be no negative reputation, just as there was no negative reputation from the sacking. The only negativity is internal.
I think it would hurt us in terms of dealing with other clubs if found guilty. That said a good season and good performances on the pitch, and most people will forget about it.