Off Topic Sutcliffe

[Trumpton Tiger.]

I mentioned this on a topic previously. On my 14th birthday I went to see Manfred Mann, chatted a lass up, rolled in after 1am. My grandson was 14 this years, same month. He was sat in, as were all his mates, playing on their consoles. Not saying I would have been given that latitude in Hull or any other large city though. A couple of weeks after my 14th I rolled in after 2 am and woke my dad up. He informed me that as the concerts at Brid Spa finished at 11.45 then 12.30 was plenty of time to be home by. I studiously looked at him and rather languidly said father, we no longer live in Victorian times (I had just been reading Billy Liar). How he resisted the temptation to bat me one I don't know. It was only years later I found out my mother never went to sleep until she heard me come in and didn't say anything as she didn't want me and my dad arguing.
My dad did say (funny how fathers were wiser than you thought at the time) that I might moan about him but it would be interesting to see what I would be like when my kids were that age. He had a point.

I remember as a lad lying awake at night on a week end waiting for my old fella and mother to arrive home from club safely. This was before the drink driving laws were brought it and people used to drive home arseholed. I witnessed several crashes and cars driving into ditches after closing time on Beverley Road in those days.
Remember sneaking out late one night, aged about 15, meeting my mate on OPE, and both of us going to Penny Farthing Coffee Club on Spring Bank. It was full of dodgy characters of both sexes none of which tried tapping us up. So we tried Viccy Coffee Club and Gothenburg the following week ends.
From the age of 14 ( late 60's) with mates, we led a carefree life, out from dawn til dusk and sometimes never came home at all. We would hitchhike all over and never gave a second thought about getting home. If we ever came a cross a flasher or a perve we would brick them. Seriously. Never did us any harm.

 

[DMD]

I remember as a lad lying awake at night on a week end waiting for my old fella and mother to arrive home from club safely. This was before the drink driving laws were brought it and people used to drive home arseholed. I witnessed several crashes and cars driving into ditches after closing time on Beverley Road in those days.
Remember sneaking out late one night, aged about 15, meeting my mate on OPE, and both of us going to Penny Farthing Coffee Club on Spring Bank. It was full of dodgy characters of both sexes none of which tried tapping us up. So we tried Viccy Coffee Club and Gothenburg the following week ends.
From the age of 14 ( late 60's) with mates, we led a carefree life, out from dawn til dusk and sometimes never came home at all. We would hitchhike all over and never gave a second thought about getting home. If we ever came a cross a flasher or a perve we would brick them. Seriously. Never did us any harm.

 

[originalminority]

You think parenting is so much better now? Out of control gangs roaming about with no respect for anybody or anything suggest otherwise. A lot of them without a father in their lives. As for bullying I would say there is more now, just in different ways. Don't recall the number of kids committing suicide because of bullying back then,

Yes I do, generally.
In my own experience of my childhood compared to the way we've brought up our children and from what I've seen of my childrens friends I'd say we have been better parents then my parents were for us and we enjoy a far greater closeness. My experience is in the suburbs though, of course others will have different experiences like the single parent families on the estates which may be different for them but I'm content to have been a better father to my kids then my Dad was for us thank you (he didn't even take me to City!).

 

[Barchullona]

Yes I do, generally.
In my own experience of my childhood compared to the way we've brought up our children and from what I've seen of my childrens friends I'd say we have been better parents then my parents were for us and we enjoy a far greater closeness. My experience is in the suburbs though, of course others will have different experiences like the single parent families on the estates which may be different for them but I'm content to have been a better father to my kids then my Dad was for us thank you (he didn't even take me to City!).

No complaints about my dad. Except for his determination in 1964 that I wasn't going to look like Brian Jones.

 

[askewshair]

I somehow missed this. Sorry about that after you went to the trouble of explaining.

It's interesting to read your experiences. It looks like I've got a combination of mixed information, and a hazy memory, particularly with the telephone line aspect.

From memory, Core started off purely on child abuse, and it was Geoffrey Dickens that took it off on the satanic tangent later in the process.

I'll keep your experience in mind if I look into it again. One of the things that caused me to look back at it at the time, was a media comment on the Laverack murder, which described Hull as being a major hub for of *****philia, which shocked me at the time.

Yeah, I had to google to trigger my memory. There were definitely several rings exposed at the time in Hull (non satanic), some exposed a few staff in children's homes. Though sadly Hull was certainly not alone in that, it was rife across the country.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

Yeah, I had to google to trigger my memory. There were definitely several rings exposed at the time in Hull (non satanic), some exposed a few staff in children's homes. Though sadly Hull was certainly not alone in that, it was rife across the country.

THere’s a classic in there ​