In that case we are never going to agree over this, as I firmly believe that supporters can make a positive difference..
Of course they can ........ players say it does so why shouldn't we believe them? Besides, aren't we cheering the club, the shirt and the local pride?
That is not what I said. I said fans do not win matches. I did not say that they make no difference whatsoever.
You have also said in a previous thread that I was living in the past expecting chanting at games: did you not?