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Sunday 25th May Bank Holiday Weekend so it's pissing down Daily Thread

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Chaninbar, May 25, 2014.

  1. Janabelle13

    Janabelle13 Well-Known Member

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    Nice to see Noble Mission get his Group 1
     
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  2. Benvenuto Cellini

    Benvenuto Cellini 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    Well done on Noble Mission lads, the market got it spot on, easy lead in ground he handles better than most. He does look a different horse this year but im not getting carried away, id be surprised if he won another Group 1 but he deserved that.
     
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  3. Benvenuto Cellini

    Benvenuto Cellini 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    Loving my 2/1 Treve for Prince of Wales now, Cirrus franks the form nicely and Magician who was supposed to be the main danger beaten. Im sure Magician will be better on better ground but hes not in the filly's league.

    Still 7/4 with crooks if your fast ;)
     
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  4. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    Afternoon lads <ok> surely Vote Often would be the most topical winner of the Irish 1000 GNS (in the absence of a horse called Overrated Bale)?
     
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  5. ChelseaCOE2012

    ChelseaCOE2012 Well-Known Member

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    Marvellous lol ffs how do these horses constantly manage to have no decent form yet win and beat proven horses with great form everytime, races really are anyones nowadays
     
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  6. beeforsalmon

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    Wow...THAT'S your Oaks horse right there lads if she's sent there that is...
     
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    please log in to view this image
    ...<laugh>
     
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  8. Benvenuto Cellini

    Benvenuto Cellini 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    daughter of Youresothrilling, good filly for Obrien a few years ago, was also difficult to train I think, wouldnt have thought she would get 1m4 Beef but you never know with these Galileos.
     
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  9. Janabelle13

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    The difference was probably having Ryan Moore as jockey this time
     
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  10. beeforsalmon

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    She was only getting going in that last furlong though and with the ground as soft as it is she reeks middle distance to me. I suppose it could have been a poor race though, as plenty would have been inconvenienced by the ground.

    O'Brien seems to agree with me based on that interview. Oaks it is by sound of it, though of course he'll have to see the 'lads' first. Listen
     
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  11. beeforsalmon

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    Worth pointing out that the Oaks jolly's form took a right hammering on Thursday too. Looks well shaky now, I couldn't have her on my mind at all. Extremely opposable now
     
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  12. Benvenuto Cellini

    Benvenuto Cellini 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    I was surprised she handled the ground that well, mentioned elsewhere she could run a race today if she handled it, but Youresothrilling(sister to Giants Causeway) won the Cherry Hinton as a 2yo so you wouldnt have thought she would be producing Oaks fillies, shes also quite closely related to Hanky Panky who is best at around a mile.

    Gut feeling is she will be best between 8-10 and might be even better on decent ground.
     
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  13. You See

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    7.5 point profit I really thought teovio would have the beating of the top weight not a bad return though.
    hope your all winning fellas :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  14. ChelseaCOE2012

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    Never heard of D Holmes, never heard of the two horses, and don't like the look of either, but by the crap I've seen today and yesterday, I'm doing a £5 r/fc and £5 win singles on them both
     
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  15. ChelseaCOE2012

    ChelseaCOE2012 Well-Known Member

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    BOOOOOOM 12/1 on a horse rated 18lbs better than anyone else yet giving no weight <laugh> thanks a lot
     
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  16. ChelseaCOE2012

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    Now for danny cook to bring home the bacon in the last for a tasty double!!!
     
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  17. Bustino74

    Bustino74 Thouroughbred Breed Enthusiast

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    Can only back up Chan's comments on the article by Richard Hughes on watering in yesterday's RP. I think we've had plenty of these discussions on here before but his comments were enlightening. The contrast between Warwick, which waters and which he says he will never ride again, and Bath, which can't water, which he says is a safe course to ride was amazing to hear.

    Ron, where did you think he got it wrong?
     
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  18. Bustino74

    Bustino74 Thouroughbred Breed Enthusiast

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    Found an old notebook with a couple of horses I followed and their runs in 1975

    Horse 1

    Newbury May 16th Good to Soft
    Sandown May 27th Firm
    Royal Ascot June 19th Firm
    Curragh June 28th Good to Firm
    York August 20th Good to Firm
    Doncaster Sept 13th Good

    Horse 2
    Newmarket April 16th Soft
    Chester May 6th Good
    Haydock May 23rd Firm
    Haydock June 6th Firm
    Royal Ascot June 19th Firm
    York July 12th Good to Soft
    Sandown Aug 30th Firm

    13 races, 7 of them on Firm ground, 2 Good to Firm and the horses in question won 6 of the races they ran in, were 3yos and both had respectable 4yo careers. A horse is (un)lucky to encounter firm ground these days.
     
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  19. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    1. It's ok to run horses on a "road"? Total bollocks.
    2. Jarring is not an injury etc. It is an injury but it probably won't show up in lameness, even though it will be uncomfortable. So to him it's probably OK. However it does cause damage and it can be long lasting especially if repeated. It seems he thinks it's OK if they can run again. Maybe if he owned the horse and took proper veterinary advice he would think again.

    He's correct in saying that firm ground with a good cushioning of grass is fine. But to say it's OK to jar up a horse ??????????????????

    As I said Bustino, if he had stuck to the topic it would have been a very good article.
     
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  20. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    PS Bustino. The fact that a horse won on firm going does not mean it hasn't done any harm. And going classified as firm doesn't mean the same on all courses. As RH says, firm going with a good covering of grass is fine.
     
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