They still don't have to worry about being relegated if they risk them, though. We do, that's the catch. Our consequences are so much greater if our young talent isn't ready or doesn't work. Watson was raved about and got us promoted, but even he hasn't got a look in at Brighton as they said he needs time to adapt and get up to speed and learn the coach's plans. He's had barely if any game time with them at allNot so sure it is that cut and dried mate. Arsenal under pressure to win the league and they can find ways to give academy players meaningful time. Dowman was probably the best player on the pitch mind. Look at the goal the young lad at Liverpool scored age 16 yesterday - huge pressure moment and Liverpool trust the lad. The signal it sends through the whole academy is enormous. We have our own super talent in Rigg imo. If he is not ready to play premier league football I will eat my hat. Like Arteta said about Dowman, Mowbray said about Rigg - you have to look beyond the age and see the player. It takes bravery from coaches to play such young lads, but I would wager in Riggs case he will shine and leave some of the lads purchase this summer in his wake. Academy football is producing players ready for elite football at younger ages these days. No point accelerating their development when they are so talented, to then stall it a the finishing line for them.
They probably see the consequences of not making champ league, or winning trophies in the same way see the relegation risk. The risk of being seen not to trust academy players will have very real long term consequences for our football club in my opinion. At the minute we can be a selecting academy based on the success of the breakthrough of the likes of Rigg. We can select the next Rigg level players to come to us. If now we are in the prem we don't keep giving players the pathway, that reputation may change very quickly.They still don't have to worry about being relegated if they risk them, though. We do, that's the catch. Our consequences are so much greater if our young talent isn't ready or doesn't work. Watson was raved about and got us promoted, but even he hasn't got a look in at Brighton as they said he needs time to adapt and get up to speed and learn the coach's plans. He's had barely if any game time with them at all
In my mind,Arsenal can bring Dowman on,because they are an established side....same with Liverpool. They wouldn't be anywhere near so keen to bring them on if they were struggling,although I do accept the Liverpool lad,on this occasion, was a game changer.It's always easier to bring young players into a side that's playing well,no matter what level. On Rigg, I have yet to see it and I really hope I'm proved terribly wrong. I know I'm going to be shot down by you and any amount of others on here,but,imo,he's not playing in the first team because he's not good enough. I hope I'm wrong,but if not,I hope your hat is tasty!Not so sure it is that cut and dried mate. Arsenal under pressure to win the league and they can find ways to give academy players meaningful time. Dowman was probably the best player on the pitch mind. Look at the goal the young lad at Liverpool scored age 16 yesterday - huge pressure moment and Liverpool trust the lad. The signal it sends through the whole academy is enormous. We have our own super talent in Rigg imo. If he is not ready to play premier league football I will eat my hat. Like Arteta said about Dowman, Mowbray said about Rigg - you have to look beyond the age and see the player. It takes bravery from coaches to play such young lads, but I would wager in Riggs case he will shine and leave some of the lads purchase this summer in his wake. Academy football is producing players ready for elite football at younger ages these days. No point accelerating their development when they are so talented, to then stall it a the finishing line for them.

Dowman and Rio seem to be generational talents as well, like Rigg is. We’ve given Rigg plenty of football. I know some would say too much, but I don’t agree.
If we persist in the premier league we will attract more young talent just by being a premier league club. Then if that talent is good enough, they’ll break through. Speakman will see to that.
Early signs are that Rigg is going to struggle for minutes centrally. Not many data points of course but if his route to the pitch is occasional sub minutes out wide, that presents an issue. If we manage to fumble Rigg this season such that he views sitting on a big 6 bench as better than sitting on ours (which I’m fairly certain would happen if he doesn’t get enough minutes) it will have a significant negative effect on us in the medium term. For all we need to stay up, we have to also look beyond 25/26.They probably see the consequences of not making champ league, or winning trophies in the same way see the relegation risk. The risk of being seen not to trust academy players will have very real long term consequences for our football club in my opinion. At the minute we can be a selecting academy based on the success of the breakthrough of the likes of Rigg. We can select the next Rigg level players to come to us. If now we are in the prem we don't keep giving players the pathway, that reputation may change very quickly.
No worries about Chris at all. Assuming he signs up again, I'd guess he'll play twenty or so games this season all in . Maybe more, he'll be hard to get out once he's in there.Not so sure it is that cut and dried mate. Arsenal under pressure to win the league and they can find ways to give academy players meaningful time. Dowman was probably the best player on the pitch mind. Look at the goal the young lad at Liverpool scored age 16 yesterday - huge pressure moment and Liverpool trust the lad. The signal it sends through the whole academy is enormous. We have our own super talent in Rigg imo. If he is not ready to play premier league football I will eat my hat. Like Arteta said about Dowman, Mowbray said about Rigg - you have to look beyond the age and see the player. It takes bravery from coaches to play such young lads, but I would wager in Riggs case he will shine and leave some of the lads purchase this summer in his wake. Academy football is producing players ready for elite football at younger ages these days. No point accelerating their development when they are so talented, to then stall it a the finishing line for them.
They probably see the consequences of not making champ league, or winning trophies in the same way see the relegation risk. The risk of being seen not to trust academy players will have very real long term consequences for our football club in m
Agreed. But we have comey opinion. At the minute we can be a selecting academy based on the success of the breakthrough of the likes of Rigg. We can select the next Rigg level players to come to us. If now we are in the prem we don't keep giving players the pathway, that reputation may change very quickly.
To be fair, I am all out of hats! Had to eat them allIn my mind,Arsenal can bring Dowman on,because they are an established side....same with Liverpool. They wouldn't be anywhere near so keen to bring them on if they were struggling,although I do accept the Liverpool lad,on this occasion, was a game changer.It's always easier to bring young players into a side that's playing well,no matter what level. On Rigg, I have yet to see it and I really hope I'm proved terribly wrong. I know I'm going to be shot down by you and any amount of others on here,but,imo,he's not playing in the first team because he's not good enough. I hope I'm wrong,but if not,I hope your hat is tasty!![]()

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I think a few - Rigg and Guiu Being two of them - who missed some of the pre season - will be getting minutes in tonight and open for consideration after tonight. This will have been their target game.Early signs are that Rigg is going to struggle for minutes centrally. Not many data points of course but if his route to the pitch is occasional sub minutes out wide, that presents an issue. If we manage to fumble Rigg this season such that he views sitting on a big 6 bench as better than sitting on ours (which I’m fairly certain would happen if he doesn’t get enough minutes) it will have a significant negative effect on us in the medium term. For all we need to stay up, we have to also look beyond 25/26.
Maybe but at the same time we can't force a player who isn't ready to get minutes, he will get them if he keeps working hard and proves himself when he does come on. It's more important to stay in this league first imoEarly signs are that Rigg is going to struggle for minutes centrally. Not many data points of course but if his route to the pitch is occasional sub minutes out wide, that presents an issue. If we manage to fumble Rigg this season such that he views sitting on a big 6 bench as better than sitting on ours (which I’m fairly certain would happen if he doesn’t get enough minutes) it will have a significant negative effect on us in the medium term. For all we need to stay up, we have to also look beyond 25/26.
survival is the top priority this year, no matter what it takesEarly signs are that Rigg is going to struggle for minutes centrally. Not many data points of course but if his route to the pitch is occasional sub minutes out wide, that presents an issue. If we manage to fumble Rigg this season such that he views sitting on a big 6 bench as better than sitting on ours (which I’m fairly certain would happen if he doesn’t get enough minutes) it will have a significant negative effect on us in the medium term. For all we need to stay up, we have to also look beyond 25/26.
Yep, just stay in the league. Don’t care how or who plays, just survive.survival is the top priority this year, no matter what it takes