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rowley said:
I don't think Cirkin or Neil will be " pushed out" mind.

But they can't expect to be involved if they don't sign a deal. Then there has to be a club wanting to buy, and if there were, I think it would have been clear by now.

Up to the lads, but I hope they are thinking clearly, for themselves and instructing their agents rather than the opposite.

Rigg is far more of a concern, and his signing a deal would for me be the best bit of business we have done this summer.
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I should clarify what I meant by pushed out. I would imagine the club know whether a contract can be settled upon by now or not. If they think it can be done them sit tight and focus on that after the deadline. If they dont think it can be then have your own team making clubs aware of availability. So for example, Ghisolfi sounding out Italian clubs for a loan with obligation. Or Speakman making calls to Ipswich or Southampton. Now the players couls reject any offers that arose, but the club are being proactive in trying to sell them in that scenario. I just dont see the club wanting to have Neil in particular unsigned to a contract and here in September.
 
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rowley said:
He'll get one.

Amorim is either blind, knows nothing about football at all or is being leaned on to sell him. He obviously isn't blind and knows a lot more than us about football. But this man will play Ugarte, (the only timid footballer ever to emerge from South America- and Uruguay at that!) instead of Mainoo. Mrs Rowley wouldn't do that.
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I love Mainoo. So much so I would even comsider a swap with Neil for him. If you have Rubens number pass it on and I will make the suggestion.
 
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FellTop said:
I should clarify what I meant by pushed out. I would imagine the club know whether a contract can be settled upon by now or not. If they think it can be done them sit tight and focus on that after the deadline. If they dont think it can be then have your own team making clubs aware of availability. So for example, Ghisolfi sounding out Italian clubs for a loan with obligation. Or Speakman making calls to Ipswich or Southampton. Now the players couls reject any offers that arose, but the club are being proactive in trying to sell them in that scenario. I just dont see the club wanting to have Neil in particular unsigned to a contract and here in September.
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Yep .I can see that, that's probably what's happening.

In Neil's case especially though, I hope he makes the right call here. I say this a lot, but a player who is more or less 24, should be looking to get set up, and sort the rest out later. There is no need for him to be risking his entire economic future by rolling down a contract and if I was his agent, he'd have signed by now.

Dan Ballard got another injury yesterday. Hopefully it's not too bad, just a strain. But if the horrible worst had happened he is set up. This horrible worst happens all the time and players get forgotten or lumber on into the lower leagues on injuries to keep some cash coming in.

Get the fecker signed is what I'd be telling him.
 
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rowley said:
Yep .I can see that, that's probably what's happening.

In Neil's case especially though, I hope he makes the right call here. I say this a lot, but a player who is more or less 24, should be looking to get set up, and sort the rest out later. There is no need for him to be risking his entire economic future by rolling down a contract and if I was his agent, he'd have signed by now.

Dan Ballard got another injury yesterday. Hopefully it's not too bad, just a strain. But if the horrible worst had happened he is set up. This horrible worst happens all the time and players get forgotten or lumber on into the lower leagues on injuries to keep some cash coming in.

Get the fecker signed is what I'd be telling him.
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I obviously dont know the details but the PFA have an insurance provider for its members. They in particular insure against career ending injuries. I dont know how the payout is calculated of course. But there is some level of financial security even if perhaps not the amount you might earn as a top flight footballer for 10 years.

My surface level understanding is clubs insure players too. So in the event of a career ending injury they get their contract paid out.
 
FellTop said:
I obviously dont know the details but the PFA have an insurance provider for its members. They in particular insure against career ending injuries. I dont know how the payout is calculated of course. But there is some level of financial security even if perhaps not the amount you might earn as a top flight footballer for 10 years.

My surface level understanding is clubs insure players too. So in the event of a career ending injury they get their contract paid out.
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I'm sure they would definitely get their contact paid out, and maybe a bit on top.

But if you are on a low value, old contract, I can't see any insurance paying out as it would if you were on a high one. It is pretty well bound to be based on a contract and the player's worth to the club.

I spent decades as a contractor, so my perspective is formed by that. I always took measures to ensure I and mine were okay. But a footballer has forty plus years to pay for when he stops. He should always take the deal that sets him up IMO.
 
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I just don’t get why Bakwa would go to Forest. They’ve already bought three players this summer who play in his position, and two of them cost more than his reported fee. I’m fully expecting him to go there. Surely he’s better off coming to us, playing more, and using us as a stepping stone. Which I’m fine with.
 
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FellTop said:
I obviously dont know the details but the PFA have an insurance provider for its members. They in particular insure against career ending injuries. I dont know how the payout is calculated of course. But there is some level of financial security even if perhaps not the amount you might earn as a top flight footballer for 10 years.

My surface level understanding is clubs insure players too. So in the event of a career ending injury they get their contract paid out.
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I read an article a while back that said most clubs don’t insure their players anymore as the premiums had become so costly and career ending injury is relatively rare.
 
CR17 said:
Xhaka doesn’t go to AFCON mate so he will be in there. Then a new winger should be playing too you’d imagine.
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Oh aye, yeah. I'm putting that down to bank holiday drinking. Maybe it hasn't truly sunk in yet. :-)
 
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