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I’ve never seen a championship player shoot as badly as he does. I reckon I’d fancy Patterson at shooting above Roberts (actually on reflection that’s not true). He did reinvent himself as a deeper defensive wide player who could break fast. Before that I was done with him.
It's not just his shooting, he doesn't really get into positions to score which is the big concern for me
 
He can definitely do a lot of the things we need a winger to do but he doesn't do it enough
Yep,when I played,coaches used to say....he passes when he should shoot and he shoots when he should pass! Glad we've got a new set piece coach too.....his set piece delivery has often been terrible.
 
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It's not just his shooting, he doesn't really get into positions to score which is the big concern for me

What irritates me more than anything is the fans who say he’s always got 2 defenders on him and that’s why it’s hard for him.. he doesn’t, he just decides to beat one man then drive into an area filled with defenders rather than shooting or looking for the pass. His decision making is really poor and at the age of 28 it’s not going to get any better
 
What irritates me more than anything is the fans who say he’s always got 2 defenders on him and that’s why it’s hard for him.. he doesn’t, he just decides to beat one man then drive into an area filled with defenders rather than shooting or looking for the pass. His decision making is really poor and at the age of 28 it’s not going to get any better
Honestly I think it’s time to move on his output just isn’t good enough for us in the premier league.
 
What irritates me more than anything is the fans who say he’s always got 2 defenders on him and that’s why it’s hard for him.. he doesn’t, he just decides to beat one man then drive into an area filled with defenders rather than shooting or looking for the pass. His decision making is really poor and at the age of 28 it’s not going to get any better
Yep totally

He's slow on the ball and that draws defenders to him

I don't mind him compared to other people (looking at your @SourPatch2!!) But he's not PL quality imo
 
Not sure how anyone can say they don't rate Roberts, he can be frustrating at times but wingers always are. He has loads of ability and can create goals out of nothing. Although he does need to add more goals to his game
Want to start this by saying that I'll forever be grateful for the goal against Sheff Wed and the assist against Sheff Utd, both huge moments where Roberts delivered. However, I think in football you can't be blinded by a few moments when the rest of the time he's largely been poor. If this was a player we're being linked to i'm really not sure anyone would be excited.

He had 78 shots last season (2 penalties) but just 2 goals (1 penalty), that's a non penalty shot conversion rate of 1.31%. For someone who is among our highest shot takers that's not even close to being good enough.

Then you look at the xG stuff. 0.05 non penalty xG per shot. Why does he shoot so much from bad opportunities when he's clearly not good at it? That just wastes so many opportunities to sustain attacks and build for better opportunities. Attached a shot map below where you can clearly see what he does, cut in and shoot. But the problem is that he just isn't good at it. His only open play goal over the last 2 seasons came on the opposite side (Bristol City at home). So in the PL, where we will naturally have less opportunities to score, do you want him taking a large % of our shots?
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His chance creation is fine for the Championship, nothing great but it's solid. 0.09 xA per chance created which is fine. But if it's the main selling point then i'm not sure it's good enough.

When it comes to dribbling and ball carrying, he's wildly overrated. People talk about how he wins fouls but he won just 1.04 fouls per90, compared to Mundles 2.31. He's actually dispossessed more than he's fouled. Progressive carry distance is miles behind Mundle as well.

His work rate is pretty good but the actual defending leaves a lot to be desired. We've seen with Talbi what real high level defending from a winger looks like, with proper pressing angles and body positioning (I know it's pre season but from what I seen of Talbi at Brugge, I'm confident he'll carry it into the real games). Roberts was dribbled past 1.61 times per90, compared to Mundles 0.31.

I know i'm in the minority with Roberts because he's exciting on the ball, but I just can't ignore all the evidence that suggests he's not very good. I think we've upgraded massively with Talbi.
 
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