Transfer Rumours Summer Transfer Window 2023

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Roland Deschain said:
Oh, yeah - £900m divided by 5 years (amoritisation) is about £180m, player sales is about, what, £140m or so? So net spend on FFP terms is about £40m. Yeah, makes sense.

Well, in terms of it being an utterly toxic, bullshit, elitist system.
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I think they’re playing a very dangerous game. FAPL allow their mad 9 year amortisation. UEFA don’t. They’re not in Europe this year so will just wing it.

There has to come a point where their gambles duck up. Is Enzo still worth £106m? Is Mudryk worth £80m? Who would take their wages on?

it’ll be interesting, that’s for certain.
 
cronemeister said:
Closely approaching £900m in 1 year since Bohely bought the Chelsea Rams.

They’re gonna have to do some serious selling over the next 3 years surely and that’s even just to stay within FFP. Huge ****ing gamble this like, if any of these players **** up or turn out to be absolute ****ing pony they’re ****ed! I hope nobody buys any of their ****ing cast offs, or at the very least offers them 10p for them. Gonna be interesting watching this play out that’s for sure, it’s certainly taken some of the column inches and focus away from us!
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Clubs will buy their players. If it’s one thing chelsea are decent at it’s getting money for their cast offs. United handed them 60m for mount and arsenal 65m for havertz ffs.

They’ve also signed about 12 19-21 year olds for 15/20m and loaning them all out. They’ll do that for 3/4 years in the hope that they’ll do alright enough for a lower prem or half decent foreign side want to sign them for 20m each and bingo they’re not only made their money back, but they’ve made a profit on the books because all that money comes in one go, while only costing 4/5m a year.
 
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Obi Wan said:
To be fair he looked really good in the games he did play. As a 19 year old, he really stood out in a Chelsea team otherwise performing quite poorly last season.
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Apparently very good going forward but a bit suspect defensively atm (only a kid so to be expected). That’s from Chelsea mate of mine when been speaking about him
 
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Don't like TalkSport, but Goldstein is decent. And, yes, it should be gone. Because it's elitist ****.

If an owner wants to come in and spend THEIR money, up to them. Any club shouldn't be allowed to use excessive debt. It's not difficult. Why it's so complicated is because the powers that be are trying to suppress. Everyone sees it, nobody can do anything about it. It's like the VAR scam. Everybody knows what it's there for, nobody can do anything.
 
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Al-Rumayyans suit said:
We need to start beating the get rid of ffp drum loudly I feel.

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They'll replace with something else. Or throw their toys out and the ESL will be established.

I blame the various FA's. Typical PubSec, standing by whilst capitalism runs rings round them all. How many things are absolutely ****ed with football these days? PGMOL, loan system, FFP, elitism, Champions League new format (or ESL 2.0), Europa Conference League (FFS), transfer fees, agent fees, uncapped salaries and now this Saudi mess?

Absolutely incredible.
 
Roland Deschain said:
They'll replace with something else. Or throw their toys out and the ESL will be established.

I blame the various FA's. Typical PubSec, standing by whilst capitalism runs rings round them all. How many things are absolutely ****ed with football these days? PGMOL, loan system, FFP, elitism, Champions League new format (or ESL 2.0), Europa Conference League (FFS), transfer fees, agent fees, uncapped salaries and now this Saudi mess?

Absolutely incredible.
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Need rid of the thing entirely.
 
If they get Lavia they are closing in on 1 billion euros spent and recouping about 310m... no way they should be able to spend 700m euros in a season on players.

FFP needs to be clearer and more robust - wouldn't do away with it otherwise there is no hope for anyone bar the big clubs or rich owners but the way its implemented atm with costs spread over 5 years and bs like this mean it's not fit for purpose.

I seriously hope Chelsea fail to make Europe/top 6 again this year so we can see how the EPL and FFP deal with them going forward.
 
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G4rdToonArmy said:
If they get Lavia they are closing in on 1 billion euros spent and recouping about 310m... no way they should be able to spend 700m euros in a season on players.

FFP needs to be clearer and more robust - wouldn't do away with it otherwise there is no hope for anyone bar the big clubs or rich owners but the way its implemented atm with costs spread over 5 years and bs like this mean it's not fit for purpose.

I seriously hope Chelsea fail to make Europe/top 6 again this year so we can see how the EPL and FFP deal with them going forward.
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Them qualifying would be more interesting. The PL would give them a slap on the wrist fine whereas UEFA…..
 
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Roland Deschain said:
West Ham will hold out for significant money, mind. And Paqueta's decent, but he's not KDB. This could be the first time a gap appears in the City armour. They can't just win everything, for ever - nobody ever does. That's replacing KDB, Mahrez and Gundogan seemlessly. Liverpool thought they could do the same with Mane/Firmino.
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Totally agree. I thought thanks to some exits that their midfield was weaker even when KDB was in it. But now he's out for months, imo they're appreciably weaker.
Hope that West Ham refuse to sell them Paqueta, and obviously (my God we've come a long way) we're not selling them any of our superb midfielders.
Liverpool imo haven't strengthened (ha ha thanks to Chelsea) what was a pretty average midfield either, so I don't see them suddenly being one of best sides again this season.
 
Consett Mag said:
Totally agree. I thought thanks to some exits that their midfield was weaker even when KDB was in it. But now he's out for months, imo they're appreciably weaker.
Hope that West Ham refuse to sell them Paqueta, and obviously (my God we've come a long way) we're not selling them any of our superb midfielders.
Liverpool imo haven't strengthened (ha ha thanks to Chelsea) what was a pretty average midfield either, so I don't see them suddenly being one of best sides again this season.
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Chelsea / Liverpool was quite even, and lacked real punch. There's some talent dotted around, Enzo's a decent player (better than Tonali? Nope) and Salah showed bits but for the most part it looked like two sides with top 6 aspirations rather than long-standing established mafia clubs.

Chelsea's activity smacks of a club who know a lengthy transfer ban is coming, probably two years or so this time (as it's a second breach). Hence why they've bought anyone they can under 23 years of age. I think it could be interesting this season and - whisper it - could suit Newcastle more than anyone. We've often done ok against "big" sides, there's still an element of "it's only Newcastle" when teams play us. If there's a situation where all these clubs keep drawing and nicking points off each other, we could be a dark horse for a title run. Could go the other way, too, of course! But I'll put £10 on a Newcastle title win this season. I'll wait til City beat us first, mind.
 
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Consett Mag said:
Totally agree. I thought thanks to some exits that their midfield was weaker even when KDB was in it. But now he's out for months, imo they're appreciably weaker.
Hope that West Ham refuse to sell them Paqueta, and obviously (my God we've come a long way) we're not selling them any of our superb midfielders.
Liverpool imo haven't strengthened (ha ha thanks to Chelsea) what was a pretty average midfield either, so I don't see them suddenly being one of best sides again this season.
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Think we've had the best business so far especially if we get a CB/LB. Tonali plugs a huge gapping chasm in the squad but looks like he will add so much quality, Barnes is a big upgrade in terms of output on ASM, depth in defence with Livarmento and the aforementioned potential CB or LB (allowing Burn to move into his natural position) and we are looking really strong, get both CB & LB and I'll be sticking a £10 on us to win the league <cheers>

Liverpool need a DM desperately, MacAllistar while a great ball player isn't a "Kante" type who'll win loads of tackles and interceptions for them. Lots of good att mind midfielders but lost Fabinho, Milner, Keita from the more holding minded mid's so defensively could be suspect.
Chelsea have a load of talent but very young an inexperienced squad - they have a nice easy start to the year but they have Arsenal, Spurs, City, Us, Brighton, Man U in a run of 7 games in late Oct-Dec - that will be season defining for them.
City need signings and quickly, Paqueta while a good player won't replace KDB going forwards, still think they need 2/3 quality additions unless Pep goes 6 at the back and just relys on Haarland to score 40-50 goals again (possible)
Man U - wasted a ton on Mount and an injured young striker while placing faith in Anthony and Garnacho on the wings, can't see that improving them.
Spurs lost Kane, not replaced him yet they stutter this year - think Maddison will do well for them but they need someone finishing the chances he creates.
Arsenal - the only "big" 6 club who have really improved their squad, Timbers a great signing but injured now Rice is a big plus and upgrade on Xhaka, Havertz adds depth to their squad for them so they would be the standout in terms of transfers out of the syndicate.
 
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Roland Deschain said:
Chelsea / Liverpool was quite even, and lacked real punch. There's some talent dotted around, Enzo's a decent player (better than Tonali? Nope) and Salah showed bits but for the most part it looked like two sides with top 6 aspirations rather than long-standing established mafia clubs.

Chelsea's activity smacks of a club who know a lengthy transfer ban is coming, probably two years or so this time (as it's a second breach). Hence why they've bought anyone they can under 23 years of age. I think it could be interesting this season and - whisper it - could suit Newcastle more than anyone. We've often done ok against "big" sides, there's still an element of "it's only Newcastle" when teams play us. If there's a situation where all these clubs keep drawing and nicking points off each other, we could be a dark horse for a title run. Could go the other way, too, of course! But I'll put £10 on a Newcastle title win this season. I'll wait til City beat us first, mind.
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We should start a pool <laugh>
 
cronemeister said:
Closely approaching £900m in 1 year since Bohely bought the Chelsea Rams.

They’re gonna have to do some serious selling over the next 3 years surely and that’s even just to stay within FFP. Huge ****ing gamble this like, if any of these players **** up or turn out to be absolute ****ing pony they’re ****ed! I hope nobody buys any of their ****ing cast offs, or at the very least offers them 10p for them. Gonna be interesting watching this play out that’s for sure, it’s certainly taken some of the column inches and focus away from us!
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Givemeursaltytears said:
Chelsea are a horrible little ****er of a club
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Yep... built on Putin's roubles but folk have already forgotten it seems...
 
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