Summer transfer thread

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Vincemac said:
I don’t like buying squad fillers
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Any club should only buy players from two categories, improving first team or prospect for the future. Squad fillers should be the bloke who has been knocked out the first team by the new signing and the bloke who has been knocked out the squad filler role should be sold.

Obviously that's a very simple view of things. But trying to do that every window would have seen us improve not get worse season after season.
 
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young2077 said:
Any club should only buy players from two categories, improving first team or prospect for the future. Squad fillers should be the bloke who has been knocked out the first team by the new signing and the bloke who has been knocked out the squad filler role should be sold.

Obviously that's a very simple view of things. But trying to do that every window would have seen us improve not get worse season after season.
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But player A, who was getting a game every week and now finds himself on the bench because you’ve signed player B, isn’t happy with sitting on the bench every week and knows he could play every week for another championship team so he wants to leave. Who do you sign? Player C who’s better than Player B and relegates him to the bench, therefore he now wants to leave for regular football..

Squads are made up of different types of players for different reasons. For arguments sake Liverpool go and sign Reece James from Chelsea. Now you’ve got him and TAA at the club and only one can play at RB. You think the other is going to sit around every week and accept not being first choice?
 
young2077 said:
Any club should only buy players from two categories, improving first team or prospect for the future. Squad fillers should be the bloke who has been knocked out the first team by the new signing and the bloke who has been knocked out the squad filler role should be sold.

Obviously that's a very simple view of things. But trying to do that every window would have seen us improve not get worse season after season.
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Not sure about the term squad filler. Every squad has players who are first choice,more talented,but whose form can dip or can get injured or suspended,so you need players to be able to step in. Are they fillers? No squad has all its' players on an equal selection level throughout the season.Ability levels will always vary.Some players can do a job in certain matches,but not others.
 
WorkyTicketFTM said:
But player A, who was getting a game every week and now finds himself on the bench because you’ve signed player B, isn’t happy with sitting on the bench every week and knows he could play every week for another championship team so he wants to leave. Who do you sign? Player C who’s better than Player B and relegates him to the bench, therefore he now wants to leave for regular football..

Squads are made up of different types of players for different reasons. For arguments sake Liverpool go and sign Reece James from Chelsea. Now you’ve got him and TAA at the club and only one can play at RB. You think the other is going to sit around every week and accept not being first choice?
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Brainy Dose said:
Not sure about the term squad filler. Every squad has players who are first choice,more talented,but whose form can dip or can get injured or suspended,so you need players to be able to step in. Are they fillers? No squad has all its' players on an equal selection level throughout the season.Ability levels will always vary.Some players can do a job in certain matches,but not others.
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This is why I said its a very simple view of things. We seem to now be signing players cause they improve the starting 16 or so players, first 11 being a term that doesn't really work anymore as teams shift around players depending on who they are playing and how they want to play that day.

We seem to be signing people with a plan and to improve the team. I honestly don't think this has always been the case. I would argue Steve Bruce signed players cause they were available and willing to come with very little thought on if they were capable of playing how we were palying. Then there was that De Fanti fella.
 
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young2077 said:
This is why I said its a very simple view of things. We seem to now be signing players cause they improve the starting 16 or so players, first 11 being a term that doesn't really work anymore as teams shift around players depending on who they are playing and how they want to play that day.

We seem to be signing people with a plan and to improve the team. I honestly don't think this has always been the case. I would argue Steve Bruce signed players cause they were available and willing to come with very little thought on if they were capable of playing how we were palying. Then there was that De Fanti fella.
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Couldn't agree more mate....our recruitment in the past Ellis regime was ****ing chaotic. We did have some good players under Bruce, but there was no analysis and no plan. As for de Fanti..........the less said the better!
 
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Steve F over ‘t road says “we will sign him” of
Ellis Simms.

That would be canny
 
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I think if anyone is expecting a top 6 finish might need to slow down a bit. I think it will be 3 - 4 years before we get there.
I see nothing in the club management set up that says let's do fast decisions.
All seems to be carefully planned and they are here for the long haul.
Personally I will be happy to see us make decent progression and keep the recruitment plan as they have started it.
Yes they want to get us promoted but will take time and make concrete knowledgable decisions rather than a quick fix.
I have seen this set of lads trying there hardest and we have no long contracted lay abouts as we have suffered over so many years.
They will get my support and let's be honest. In my 64th year of supporting the lads I have learnt to be patient.

HTL & FTM
 
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