1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Transfer Rumours Summer transfer rumours 2023

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by MorgansBitOnTheSchneid, May 15, 2023.

  1. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Messages:
    17,808
    Likes Received:
    13,132
    If we're that intent on maintaining the relationship, we could also offer him back to them for £40m now, too.

    Realistically, we can't keep him. We need to sell a bunch of players simply to comply with the Championship financial regulations next year, and Lavia is likely to be the most lucrative and in-demand.
     
    #101
  2. Saintmagic

    Saintmagic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2011
    Messages:
    19,524
    Likes Received:
    14,160
    Yeah and this is what I think will happen, he’ll go back to City this summer. I don’t think it will be for £40m though, can see a Delap/McAtee loan coming in and a smaller fee. Possibly another youngster or 2 being signed with buybacks as well

    But yeah I can’t see any way that Lavia is here next season
     
    #102
  3. Gregm1988

    Gregm1988 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2019
    Messages:
    6,013
    Likes Received:
    3,648
    Maybe we don’t care about the relationship with City given the 25% success rate and us signing four players from them didn’t exactly work out for us did it?
     
    #103
  4. RSS

    RSS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2011
    Messages:
    9,860
    Likes Received:
    7,576
    Bit harsh. Larios has been injured most of the season and him and Edozie weren’t bought to be the finished article and straight in the team anyway. Baz hasn’t been great but has been thrown in at the deep end and may still come good. Meanwhile Lavia has far exceeded expectations. I don’t think there was anything wrong with bringing those 4 in. The issue is that our other signings that were bought as starters and to make an immediate impact have failed, and we’ve had to use Baz and Lavia more than I imagine we’d planned to. How bothered we are about continuing the Man City relationship and strategy remains to be seen though, especially with all the staff changes at all levels. I still think it’s a good strategy personally, so long as you get other signings right too.
     
    #104
  5. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Messages:
    17,808
    Likes Received:
    13,132
    I mean, it objectively did work out for us. If we sell Lavia, we will have broken even financially for all four, and we will still have three talented young players who have every chance to work out.

    The kids didn't sink us here, the sheer incompetence of our veterans did. Che, Moi, the Armstrongs, Aribo, Theo, Djenepo, Onuachu, none of them are young. They played more than 10,000 minutes combined this year. They scored 13 goals in that span. That is extraordinarily bad. A goal for every 775 minutes played.

    In his final six seasons with us (ie., after the couple where he scored at a decent clip), Shane Long scored about 50% more goals on a per-minute basis than the above combination of players. In no universe should your attack be 50% better if you replaced all of the players with over-the-hill Shane Longs, but that's what we just witnessed for nine excruciating months.

    The kids didn't fail us, they just failed to save us from the diabolical ineptitude of our senior players, but they should not have been expected to do so.
     
    #105
    Last edited: May 26, 2023
  6. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Messages:
    17,808
    Likes Received:
    13,132
    For the sake of completeness: we signed four young attackers in Camel Dean, Edozie, Mara and Alvarez. They scored 5 goals in 2927 minutes. Also not at all great! Still better than the vets.
     
    #106
  7. SaintinNZ

    SaintinNZ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2014
    Messages:
    4,203
    Likes Received:
    4,815
    I actually think Mara will outscore Armstrong and adams next season in the championship. Top scorer lads, assist leader - Lyanco.
     
    #107
  8. Wherefore art thou Romeu?

    Wherefore art thou Romeu? Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2011
    Messages:
    846
    Likes Received:
    773
    Hypothetical. Assuming ABK and Salisu leave, how would people feel about bringing BACK Vestergaard or Fonte? Both reasonable targets who would add quality at that level and have some fond memories of saints.
     
    #108
  9. tomw24

    tomw24 Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2011
    Messages:
    63,203
    Likes Received:
    32,046
    Wouldn't touch Vestergaard with a bargepole - we robbed Leicester blind there.
     
    #109
  10. Dell Boy

    Dell Boy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2013
    Messages:
    1,449
    Likes Received:
    769
    Can't see it myself? For me he's offered nothing going forward, poor decision making, poor hold up play, no physical presence, poor header, one footed, but he has got a bit of pace about him.
    Really awful signing, hopefully he's one for for the future I'd certainly like to be proved wrong.
     
    #110

  11. TIL I Die

    TIL I Die Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2020
    Messages:
    292
    Likes Received:
    418
    I think Jose back as a player/coach could be a good move.
     
    #111
    manxsaint and garysfc like this.
  12. saintkeef

    saintkeef Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2012
    Messages:
    264
    Likes Received:
    94
    Having said that what the heck is Selles on? This quote today from him -
    Selles on expiring contracts: “I think Moi and Theo are the professionals, in capital letters. They gave everything for Southampton until the very end. They are players who every team should consider to have in their dressing room.” #saintsfc
     
    #112
    Saints_Alive likes this.
  13. garysfc

    garysfc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    4,848
    Likes Received:
    2,929
    Jeez, the others must be 100% ****e
     
    #113
  14. Lemons and Oranges

    Lemons and Oranges Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2014
    Messages:
    4,606
    Likes Received:
    6,893
    Selles didn't say 'on the pitch'...
     
    #114
  15. saintlyhero

    saintlyhero Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2011
    Messages:
    7,580
    Likes Received:
    3,548
    Surely we don’t need to raise that much. If our net spend is a profit - job done
     
    #115
  16. lewebster

    lewebster Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2012
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    1,123
    Considering we went for their coach, maybe not that bothered!
     
    #116
  17. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2011
    Messages:
    30,267
    Likes Received:
    34,804
    He has been advising, coaching and now managing in our worst season for decades so forgive me if I don't trust his judgement, I wish him well elsewhere but I think he has a lot to learn still.
     
    #117
    garysfc likes this.
  18. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2011
    Messages:
    18,775
    Likes Received:
    28,057
    I agree with Walcott as I have said before. He has something to offer us in the. Championship and loves the club. Obviously on Championship wages.

    Moi may be a good head to have around, but he is a worse footballer than Walcott and doesn’t have the affiliation Theo has.
     
    #118
    Dark Lord SFC and SaintMarv like this.
  19. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2011
    Messages:
    30,267
    Likes Received:
    34,804
    If we can persuade Tella to stay here I would make a clean break with Theo and look to the future, we have Edozie and Djenepo too.
    There is no way on earth that Mo El has done enough on the pitch to earn another presumably lucrative contract and Smallbone returning should replace him in the squad.
     
    #119
    garysfc and SaintinNZ like this.
  20. SaintMarv

    SaintMarv Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    Messages:
    2,832
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    I would not be against Theo being here for another season if he wanted to stay then maybe coaching.
     
    #120

Share This Page