1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Transfer Rumours Summer 2025 Transfer Thread…

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Apr 19, 2025.

  1. Tony Angelino

    Tony Angelino Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2011
    Messages:
    8,214
    Likes Received:
    7,034
    it was only last week simon jordan told some saudi's to buy the massive, hopefully michelle will wisper "the tigers" in his ear and re-align his priorities
     
    #541
  2. Idi Amin

    Idi Amin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2011
    Messages:
    5,156
    Likes Received:
    5,876
    5 piece chicken and chips is to be cancelled if we get relegated.
     
    #542
    Stockholm Tiger likes this.
  3. TwoWrights

    TwoWrights Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2013
    Messages:
    10,464
    Likes Received:
    14,602
    Any bad news? :emoticon-0138-think

    The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
     
    #543
  4. 1MoreAgain

    1MoreAgain Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2014
    Messages:
    4,679
    Likes Received:
    4,283
    Sounds like plenty apparently.
     
    #544
  5. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    24,782
    Likes Received:
    19,643
    I'll share this, if only to stop some of the speculation. Remember, I get told this based on what is known at the time and this was during the international break, my source has been wrong before as it's more of a casual chat than an actual journalistic thing so stuff can get lost in translation (mainly because he has a tendency to interpret stuff in a rather dramatic way, I'm more pragmatic lol). If this turns out not to be true, or some bits of it are wrong, so be it.

    So we were told that the team turned down the offer of a trip to Turkey, but that isn't what happened. The reason we didn't go to Turkey for training is the same reason all the free stuff has stopped, the fan holidays have ceased and why we didn't go big for a striker when we needed one. We can't afford it. Some people have asked about buying the likes of Zambrano and Puerta when we have "no money", but being in financial trouble doesn't prevent you from trading or from having cash in the bank; in this case it simply means that if our loans come due, we (our owners) don't have the means by which to pay it back. I don't know how big the loans are or how long the loan lasts for, but if we go down, it's incredibly likely that the lender will want their money back and won't take the chance that we don't come back up again. We did it last time, but it was a much weaker league back then and we had a number of decent prospects coming through that could bulk out the squad.

    The club is financially in bother, to put it bluntly. Now, Kieran Maguire mentioned that the club outlook was alright when he revealed that our wages were 130% of our income, but what he doesn't have access to (at least as far as I'm aware) is the source of the funds Acun has been using to pay for everything. This, as Kalman and Syd have both alluded to, is almost certainly a bank like Macqarie. In order to take a loan out from them, they would need collateral. Remember, we aren't owned by Acun Illicali, we're principally owned by Acun Medya, his media company, so one would assume that's who would be responsible for any liabilities. Except, Acun Medya is how Acun makes his money. So would you put your bread and butter up for collateral, or an asset that you're certain will become more valuable if the funds you get will see it become a Premier League club? If we go down the crapchute and need to be sold, Acun can go back to Turkey and carry on being a media mogul, having taken a bit of a financial sting that he'll recover in no time.

    At the time, Tan was rumoured to have left in disgrace, but turns out, he saw the writing on the wall and Acun supposedly wasn't listening to him. They didn't fall out or anything, but it wasn't because Tan nicked money or anything like that, it was out of frustration.

    Essentially, last season was a huge gamble using money that wasn't ours to get promoted. It didn't pay off. We then had a chaotic Summer, which at the time seemed strange because from the outside you'd think that an ambitiously owned team that had missed out on the playoffs by one win would have players lining up to join them. Turns out, we couldn't sign an amazing striker because we didn't have the money to after signing our two star larkers. We spent over £30m on transfer fees alone this season, some of which was offset by the sale of Jacob Greaves and Jaden Philogene, but I would expect our wages to bring the amount spent to a pretty high figure.

    We aren't close to being Bury, Macclesfield or Hereford. A closer analogy would be something more akin to Portsmouth or Luton. Yes, some of the players were told they weren't going to be here a month or so back, others have instructed agents to look around for them. It's a mess, it really is and one that was completely avoidable and entirely of our own making.

    But however you look at it, it's not good. At least being in the Championship means we have more money coming in, relegation would mean a severe drop in income, lower gates and high wages for players we can't shift (the likes of Matazo, Millar and Belloumi won't be going anywhere after ACL injuries).

    What makes it feel worse is the potential for how great it could have been. In a way, it feels worse than the Allams because at least under them we got Premier League football amid all the bollocks about name changes and us dying. We had the potential to kick on after last season, it was supposed to be an exciting Summer and season and seeing the crowds up was a real positive.
     
    #545
  6. 1MoreAgain

    1MoreAgain Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2014
    Messages:
    4,679
    Likes Received:
    4,283

    Then 2-30pm Saturday it all looks so bright again.
     
    #546
  7. TwoWrights

    TwoWrights Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2013
    Messages:
    10,464
    Likes Received:
    14,602
    Nowt we won't eventually recover from, again. :emoticon-0138-think


    The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
     
    #547
  8. Tony Angelino

    Tony Angelino Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2011
    Messages:
    8,214
    Likes Received:
    7,034
    reubens jumped out the frying pan and into the fire hasnt he
     
    #548
    Stockholm Tiger and nbetiger like this.
  9. Ajbtiger

    Ajbtiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Messages:
    2,625
    Likes Received:
    3,299
    If something is to happen behind the scenes, I hope it happens quickly. If we go down I will end up enjoying League 1 and hope it would provide a reset and chance to fix whatever is wrong with the club and its current personnel. I just wouldn't want a load of off-field distractions at the same time.
     
    #549
    HulltoHellandback and nbetiger like this.
  10. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    24,782
    Likes Received:
    19,643
    Well, not really, just slightly less bleak.
     
    #550
    Mckechnie Orange and nbetiger like this.

  11. Kalman II

    Kalman II Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2024
    Messages:
    2,708
    Likes Received:
    4,802
    If what Howden and ST are saying is true, which I believe it is as they’re not in the habit of making things up for ****s and giggles, then I reckon relegation won’t result in a rebuild/reset but prolonged agony for the club and the supporters. Acun has gambled but it’s us that will deal with the fallout.

    ST’s comparison to Portsmouth is incredibly worrying because post-2010, they went into administration several times, had multiple 10-point deductions, hardly any senior players and tumbled all the way down to League Two from the Premier League in quick succession. It took them well over a decade to recover to where they are now. That’s looking like a real possibility for City if you believe the concerning rumours. When we went down under McCann, we lost some players and Ehab was tight but he did back McCann to make some shrewd signings in League One like Smallwood, Jones, Docherty, Coyle, Emmanuel etc. and we won the league first time of asking. Lewis-Potter and Greaves both flourished that season too. If we go down now, it’s so much more worse than 2020.

    If we go down, it could be 2040 before we’re back in the Championship.
     
    #551
    nbetiger likes this.
  12. Ajbtiger

    Ajbtiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Messages:
    2,625
    Likes Received:
    3,299
    I'm sure there's plenty of truth to it all but I would imagine there's a fair bit of exaggeration and sensationalism going on too. For instance, we did try to buy a striker in Conway but Boro swooped in. Also, I might be a bit deluded but personally I don't think Acun would want to leave with that type of reputation following him.
     
    #552
  13. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2014
    Messages:
    13,904
    Likes Received:
    10,640
    Pretty much confirms the speculation as opposed to stopping it. <laugh>
     
    #553
  14. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2014
    Messages:
    13,904
    Likes Received:
    10,640
    Will he have a choice?

    Debts become due and he can't pay then then it's basically back to the 90s.

    Which makes Acun's love of retro gear incredibly ironic.
     
    #554
    nbetiger likes this.
  15. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2012
    Messages:
    9,308
    Likes Received:
    13,351
    Is anyone surprised if the above turns out to be true?
    Any sensible person could have worked all of that out for themselves just by reading between the lines, and not swallowing all the bollocks we have been fed.
    There is no such thing as 'free holidays, free away travel' etc, nothing is free, the club picks up the bill for everything eventually and the bills have been mounting up from day one under this character. But no-one wanted to listen.
     
    #555
  16. Ajbtiger

    Ajbtiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Messages:
    2,625
    Likes Received:
    3,299
    Who knows. I was fond of the 90s though. I'll order some tennis balls before the prices go up!
     
    #556
  17. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2014
    Messages:
    13,904
    Likes Received:
    10,640
    I was fond of them too, but I'm not sure I'd want to relive them. Body couldn't take it anymore.
     
    #557
    nbetiger and Ajbtiger like this.
  18. 1MoreAgain

    1MoreAgain Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2014
    Messages:
    4,679
    Likes Received:
    4,283
    Well we will stay up this season and kick on next season.
     
    #558
  19. Tony Angelino

    Tony Angelino Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2011
    Messages:
    8,214
    Likes Received:
    7,034
    90’s was a great era
     
    #559
    Ajbtiger likes this.
  20. Kalman II

    Kalman II Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2024
    Messages:
    2,708
    Likes Received:
    4,802
    Acun reminds of Hugo Chávez a bit. When he came to power, he took advantage of the record-high oil prices at the time to massively increase public spending. Venezuela was sitting on liquid gold. However, he never invested in diversifying the country’s economy. Venezuela’s revenue was, and still remains so, wholly dependent on oil and as long as oil prices were high, he just kept spending and spending. Then, being the volatile commodity it is, oil prices dropped. Venezuela didn’t have anything to fall back on like Norway’s sovereign wealth fund because he spent it all. Now that country is ****ed.

    That’s City under Acun.
     
    #560

Share This Page