Suarez

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What would you like to happen now?

  • Defend Suarez publicly, keep him

  • Condemn Suarez publicly, keep him

  • Stay neutral, keep him

  • Defend Suarez publicly (for now), sell him in the Summer

  • Condemn Suarez, sell him in the Summer

  • Stay neutral, sell him in the Symmer

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Dirtyfrank said:
Luv, I don't want him out, who in their right mind wants to lose talent like that? I just reacted badly to being told I wasn't a real fan if I found the man a disgrace to our shirt.

I just don't know if I could or should stomach another year where he behaves like an animal showing disrespect to the sport that pays him huge amounts of money and a club/fans that stuck by him.

And he thinks tweeting the odd apology is good enough. I mean lets say we keep him. God knows what ban he's going to get as they seem to like to make him the poster bad boy (he's not making it hard for them is he?)

So chances are he's missing games at the start of next season. So I'll support him staying if I hear he's volunteered to go into bloody therapy/anger management because his skills are of no use sitting in the stand watching
And I see no evidence that he has any intention of changing.

I'm sorry; my gut feeling is he's lost confidence in the plan here and wants out. But like all ego's he wants an excuse rather than facing our wrath & saying I'm off to a better team.

Funny thing is I'd have less hate for him there than leaving our club in disgrace or worse staying at our club and time & again dragging it through the mud.

Suppose we'll find out soon enough.
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I understand what you're saying and his acts are disrespectful. But we cannot forget that he's the only player here who plays with his heart on his sleeve, maximum intensity, 90 mins a game, 50 games a season. He works hard, chases down everything and wants to win. In that sense, he respects the sport that pays him so handsomely.
 
KingEric07 said:
Shut up Billy you fickle plastic <whistle>

Completely agree with you though but it seems for some Suarez is bigger than the club.

And before anyone starts I'm not saying you should sell him or anything else, that's down to your management and your management alone but some of the defences of him have been pathetic.
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Eric, you are right when you say that, FA apart, what happens now is down to our club's management. However, calling those who have forwarded a defence for Suarez pathetic is really not going to help matters. I see no comment from you regarding the equally pathetic calls from opposition supporters for him to be banned from football or telling our management what they should do.
 
Jimmy Squarefoot said:
Just copying Tony Barrett and John Barnes:

"I think anger management is the route LFC have to explore with Suarez. In Steve Peters, they have one of the best psychiatrists around."

"If LFC get rid of Suarez, the issue will still exist. It'll merely be moved to another club."
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I agree, we can't go selling our best players, we aren't Arsenal. We have to do what's best for Suarez and the club and if that means him taking anger management counselling then so be it <ok>
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
I just think that collins showed how to mark suarez. the fact is suarez is not gifted with any real pace so he's got to work around you or fool you. Yesterday he got in behind luiz once really dangerously by getting into his blind sport for example.

When suarez is out the field all you need do is stand off and keep your legs together... collins put him in his pocket. suarez is at his best out wider in a front 3 AND in the box. this false 9 bollox is no use to him.

For me sturrdige arrived, started well then got injured, he's been put on for downing and played on the right and we've nothing to aim at in there.

finally torres proved what pace and getting on the shoulder of the last man can do. he shows what andy carroll simply could never do and what suarez can't do... we need to buy pace as well as power.

I do agree though Henderson and lucas simply can't play through balls and gerrard is just out on his legs now. he's sturggling to the pitch fo the ball as he's played all year. no matter what i'll maintain this point, had he rested before and during christmas he'd be playing better now when the seasons simply faded from us badly.
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Big IF, but hopefully we can get Eriksen in the summer and play at the top of midfield triangle as he has the ability to link the midfield and attack. Such a crucial position - we need our 'Mata'.

Agree with Suarez on the wing - looks far more dangerous there.
 
Jimmy Squarefoot said:
Just copying Tony Barrett and John Barnes:

"I think anger management is the route LFC have to explore with Suarez. In Steve Peters, they have one of the best psychiatrists around."

"If LFC get rid of Suarez, the issue will still exist. It'll merely be moved to another club."
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Has anyone here ever had anger management before? Or even know someone who has had it. I am a bit sceptical on whether talking to a complete stranger about how to stay calm will make any difference to his temperment on the pitch but I suppose it is worth a try.
 
Foredeckdave said:
Eric, you are right when you say that, FA apart, what happens now is down to our club's management. However, calling those who have forwarded a defence for Suarez pathetic is really not going to help matters. I see no comment from you regarding the equally pathetic calls from opposition supporters for him to be banned from football or telling our management what they should do.
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I'm not sure opposition fans calling for him to be banned is pathetic though Dave, do you ?

It should just be accepted that he has done wrong and then let the club and FA sort it out. I'm sure he won't be sold, why would he ? He will serve a ban and the club will stick by him and righly so for the time being.

I did say some of the defences have been pathetic not all.
 
LIBERTARIAN said:
He has done irreparable damage to the good name of your Club. I can see why you would want to keep him,but that comes with a price.
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If the damage is "irreparable" then why bother getting rid of him now...
 
Anger Management? I am not convinced that is what he needs. I would say a bleeding good hiding is what is called for, Suarez's issue is not anger but instead of the knowledge that he will not be properly punished by the law.
 
I'd compare this bite to an elbow, kick, head butt or stamp. Things that happen all the time. It is the same sort of scenario really.

But a bite it a very strange thing to do, which is why it seems so much worse, plus he has history.

This should be treated like a stand, elbow, head butt or kick.
 
What he has done is indefensible.
But really, what have Liverpool to gain by getting rid of him.
They lose a World class player, and gain what....a pat on the back from opposing fans and the FA?
He should be punished with a fine and lengthy ban and forced to attend counselling and warned that any further bites will result in dismissal and legal action.
Then everyone should move on and hope the lad bucks his ideas up, because lets face it, if he doesnt get the message after that, he never will.

But imo Liverpool would be stupid to just dump him right now.
 
I agree with that Jimmy but its uncontrolled at the minute which makes it a liability. He's a grown man who can't be told that his skills & work rate make up for a lack of control that in any other walk of life would lead to a criminal record.

If he even did this in rugby he'd get a serious ban.

I'm not buying the "if you take it out of his game he'll be less of a player" (not saying you we're suggesting that)

All he needs to learn is better decision making. It can be learnt if he wants to.

My question is. If he doesn't want to & continues doing these things, (you can be sure the FA will stick in proviso's for future conduct) and keeps getting lengthy bans, are the points he wins enough to make us stand up everytime & say we support the player not his actions: when do the two not become seperate?

Is it a timing thing? I mean his absence means nothing this season but what if he did it (obviously future talk) in a quarter final or in a run up when we have a chance at CL qualification. Does it become more unacceptable then? And if so why?
 
Suarez just tweeted:

For my unacceptable behaviour yesterday, the club has fined me today. I have asked the club to donate the money to Hillsborough Family Support Group for the inconvenience fans and Ivanovic.
 
Suarez just tweeted:

For my unacceptable behaviour yesterday, the club has fined me today. I have asked the club to donate the money to Hillsborough Family Support Group for the inconvenience fans and Ivanovic.
 
It is a strange situation that we find ourselves in as fans, no doubt we need to deal with his behaviour but do we go as far as selling him? I'm on the side of keep him but cannot argue against those who want him out.
 
To be honest, there's been a lot of fans from other boards saying that Suarez is a twat, but we shouldn't sell him because he is too good. Haven't seen a lot of sums., probably due to the good work of the mods.

Only problem I see is members telling other members that they're plastic etc for not sticking up for Suarez. Not seen many people who want to get rid of him, but to call people names because they can't defend him is ridiculous. One member was incredibly hypocritical telling someone to '**** off' because his views were different to his. Considering this member left the board temporarily because this happened to him once.
 
nabzy2005 said:
without suarez we would have been 15th or lower in the league table, he is by far the best player in the premier league and hated because of it,but he is prone to do silly things when he gets frustrated,he needs to learn to control this side (anger management etc).
suarez has not had a red card this season so he cant be as bad as people are making him out to be, i think a 3 game ban will suffice.
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I agree a three game ban should suffice,but I'm afraid 'trial by media' will ensure a ban will be longer.
 
Lucaaas said:
Yes, it was the other leg, but you'd be naive not to think that it was the Keane tackle that started the injury problems that lead to his retirement. According to the man himself he never played a full game after that tackle and he feels it was the root cause of his retirement. And the worst thing was about it was that it was premeditated, it wasn't a Suarez or Cantona losing their temper on the pitch. It was something he had planned for 4 years. I think that makes it worse than anything I've ever seen on a football pitch.
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Agree. Cantona is a completely separate kind of incident. Keane is the most disgusting of all.

Suarez is just a less violent, sorry, less "passionate" version of Rooney


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