There was no pressure on him to win anything while he was managing a two bob joke club like Everton as they never win anything. Lets see how he gets on at a big club that have ambitions to win things.
Suarez News (#ONTOPIC)
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There was no pressure on him to win anything while he was managing a two bob joke club like Everton as they never win anything. Lets see how he gets on at a big club that have ambitions to win things.
arsenal reputedy made massive profits i nthe past 2 years so i am assuming they can back the talk.
How long has Moyes been in charge of Everton? Never managed to win anything with them. Laudrup managed to win a trophy in his first season.
The contract situation is puzzling, as the "over £40m" clause, appears to be as clear as mud. I don't see how you can have a clause that allows a player to talk to another club if the fee is exceeded & it not being classed as a release fee?
Owes them nothing? What except the legal contract he signed with those very people AFTER the events (or his/your versions of them) occurred? It's big boy world where these business men don't care if he kisses the badge or signs an autograph. What they care about is that him and his supposed expert the agent signed a deal.
Brendan isn't telling lies when he talks about owing the city and fans but it's not legally binding.... but as I say the contract he signed with people that he apparently doesnt trust or like is. Which makes him plain stupid for doing so.
As a fan, where loyalty still matters to us I can not believe I'm hearing Liverpool fans side with a bastard like Suarez to have a dig at the club who brought him here, paid him handsomely and I'm sorry DD in the real adult world rather than the playground defended him at each turn, sometimes clumsily but defended him none the less. Long after Suarez has retired this club will still be around so bending over in front of him and saying give me some more is just plain embarrassing.
in fairness one was a long ball merchant who never had a chance and only took the fa cup seriously and the other had a big slice of luck
It's not just how much you may have but your ability and/or courage to spend it well to achieve your corporate objectives. Look at their transfer dealing over the last few seasons. What truly big names have they bought and how much money have they been prepared to risk?
They're in a different place now, the ground is paid for, they're operating at a profit & they've managed to accrue massive cash reserves.
They've been treading water for a few seasons, but they've patently made a corporate decision to invest heavily on the pitch in order to move forwards & compete at the pinaccle, rather than just chasing one of the CL slots.
But thats my point; it'll be a huge whack so how many more can they afford because (I'm not saying he'll not improve them) Suarez alone will not improve them enough to win anything but will break their carefully managed financial structure for all new aquisitions never mind the existing 'loyal' stars that will now want big pay hikes.
Do you not think as a personality thats a hell of a risk giving he's made enemies of all the powers that be?
I might tell everyone im leaving after that insult only to come back in a few days 
No actually, only a grade a clown would do that.
As a business and from a commercial POV, Arsenal are extremely well run. Luckily, they have a manager who doesn't spend shed loads BUT still manages to qualify for CL football every season which is where the real money lies.
I read somewhere that Ivan Gazidis says that he's done all he can for the club from a commercial POV - it's now up to Arsene to spend it. ..
I read somewhere that Ivan Gazidis says that he's done all he can for the club from a commercial POV - it's now up to Arsene to spend it. ..
I think the misunderstanding lies with the fact that the same term is interpreted in different ways in different countries - e.g. the same clause in Spain would give the power to the player and his agent. However, the same clause in UK means that LFC have the power, but Suarez can still talk to the club.
Some legal guy had explained this in the Independent or Guardian the other day.
Anyways, I could be talking bollox
Absolutely. I'm staggered that Wenger wants him tbh, as I can't think of a less 'Wenger'esque' signing.
It's a huge financial comittment & way beyond anything Arsenal have ever funded in the past, but they can afford it & maybe what Suarez brings ahead of say Higuain is a proven PL record.
I suppose if you were looking for a top drawer striker at the minute, who's after pastures new, he'd be top of your list, now Neymar & Cavanni have moved on.
Unless it unequivocally states that at £40,000,001 you are free to talk personal details with another club and we will accept that figure as a transfer fee then it's not a release clause. In your business you would never countenance an outside party having the right to decide the value of one of your assets without any reference or negotiation. It's exactly the same here except that for once the owners are not allowing themselves to be railroaded. Provided LFC stick to their guns ALL Premiership clubs will thank them after the heat dies down for changing the power balance between club and player.
When fans talk about loyalty what they really mean is that you honour the contract that you signed. I understand that players want to achieve the best for themselves in a relatively short career. However, they and their agents should take those factors into account before signing a contract. Once signed you have to live with the consequences.
I don't even know why I bother responding to quotes such as these. Your whole team bar Suarez ranges from poor to average. That's one line you cannot use, I'm afraid.
Do you just post without engaging your brain?
Really? Ex players and management alike coming out with smug and laughable statements such as "I don't know why he wants to join Arsenal we're bigger" or "I don't what they're smoking over there" is ok then?
Reeks of bitterness and unprofessionalism.
I think the misunderstanding lies with the fact that the same term is interpreted in different ways in different countries - e.g. the same clause in Spain would give the power to the player and his agent. However, the same clause in UK means that LFC have the power, but Suarez can still talk to the club.
Some legal guy had explained this in the Independent or Guardian the other day.
Anyways, I could be talking bollox
It's odd mate isn't it. As usually to have permission to speak to another club would mean that your current club had accepted a fee, in this case it appears that having the ability to speak to another club means nothing in terms of the fee. Which smacks of sharp practice from Liverpool when they put the contract together, by 'agreeing' to a £40m+ clause & then shafting Suarez's team with the wording. Nice to see agents getting done over for once tbh.
I see no tangible signs of this corporate decision. What major players have they bought so far. They bid for one player - only to get knocked - back. They bid for Suarez only to be publicly told that playing silly games would get then nowhere - since when no further offers! Their bank balances may be in a different place but their player mindset is still stuck where it was. They are risk averse in a risk environment!!