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Suarez *Evidence*

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Magic Ted, Dec 31, 2011.

  1. StJohn_Red_Legend

    StJohn_Red_Legend Active Member

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    The entire point of an appeals process is to follow the process. Once we're done with the FA process, the Court of Arbetration in Sport should be next, or possibly a legal challenge on the validity of the punishment.

    Little is being said of whether Suarez is guilty (its not a point of contention for most), and the FA is desperately dodging certain points. If the appeal response does not address the points raised, you can be sure that it will go further...
     
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  2. Jonesey

    Jonesey Well-Known Member

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    The poor bugger doesn't even know there's a plot. <laugh>
     
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  3. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    And this post Conscrepe proves mine entirely; can't you just see the deep hatred this 'person' has for injustice inequality racism and all the other moral implications of this saga?

    Nothing to do with spiteful childlike tribalism at all.....
     
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  4. Rubadub

    Rubadub Well-Known Member

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    Epic failure.
     
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  5. Chris.

    Chris. #bringbackchris

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  6. luvgonzo

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  7. Magic Ted

    Magic Ted Talulah

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    I'm glad there was no appeal, let's get back to football and put this whole thing behind us and move forward as a club
     
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  8. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    100%. Let's pt it behind us and get on with it. <ok>
     
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  9. Chris.

    Chris. #bringbackchris

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    You'll never guess what game Suarez could come back for...

    Manchester United away is the first game Suarez will be available after this ban.
     
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  10. SKY+

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    Sorry but it all seems a bit odd to me. If Suarez and the club are convinced he's innocent - why at the very minimum do they not try and clear his name by appealing. Sounds fishy to me...
     
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  11. luvgonzo

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    Have a look at the links I posted, sort of clears it up. Sort of.
     
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  12. SKY+

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    Will do mate <ok>

    I just think especially after the t-shirt thing we've made ourselves look ****ing stupid if we don't appeal.

    I'll read more into it though before making my views known - I don't want to make any rash judgments <whistle>
     
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  13. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    No sign of Jatt so think your safe. <ok>
     
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  14. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    Now let's see: a lot of the righteous ones have got what they wanted: surely they'll not be on to gloat in a smug & petty way because that was not what they were about remember?

    It's probably the most sensible move for the player, club & issue as they say but from the statements you can clearly see this as not "accept & apologise" this is " you're all corrupt game playing scum but we'll live to fight another day"

    Sticks in throat that the FA gets away with being a shambles once again but as long as Club & Suarez think this is right move; us fans must accept it.

    On to tonight's game!
     
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  15. luvgonzo

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    Statement from Liverpool FC

    It is our strongly held conviction that the Football Association and the panel it selected constructed a highly subjective case against Luis Suarez based on an accusation that was ultimately unsubstantiated.

    The FA and the panel chose to consistently and methodically accept and embrace arguments leading to a set of conclusions that found Mr. Suarez to "probably" be guilty while in the same manner deciding to completely dismiss the testimony that countered their overall suppositions.

    Mr. Evra was deemed to be credible in spite of admitting that he himself used insulting and threatening words towards Luis and that his initial charge as to the word used was somehow a mistake.

    The facts in this case were that an accusation was made, a rebuttal was given and there was video of the match. The remaining facts came from testimony of people who did not corroborate any accusation made by Mr. Evra.

    In its determination to prove its conclusions to the public through a clearly subjective 115-page document, the FA panel has damaged the reputation of one the Premier League's best players, deciding he should be punished and banned for perhaps a quarter of a season. This case has also provided a template in which a club's rival can bring about a significant ban for a top player without anything beyond an accusation.

    Nevertheless, there are ultimately larger issues than whether or not Luis Suarez has been treated fairly by the Football Association in this matter. There are important points we want to make today that overshadow what has occurred during the past two months.

    The issue of race in sports, as in other industries, has a very poor history. Far too often, and in far too many countries, the issues of racism and discrimination have been covered over or ignored.

    In America, where Liverpool ownership resides, there was a shameful bigotry that prevented black athletes from competing at the highest levels for decades.

    English football has led the world in welcoming all nationalities and creeds into its Premier League and its leagues below, and Liverpool Football Club itself has been a leader in taking a progressive stance on issues of race and inclusion. The Luis Suarez case has to end so that the Premier League, the Football Association and the Club can continue the progress that has been made and will continue to be made and not risk a perception, at least by some, that would diminish our commitment on these issues.

    Liverpool Football Club have supported Luis Suarez because we fundamentally do not believe that Luis on that day - or frankly any other - did or would engage in a racist act. Notably, his actions on and off the pitch with his teammates and in the community have demonstrated his belief that all athletes can play together and that the colour of a person's skin is irrelevant.

    Continuing a fight for justice in this particular case beyond today would only obscure the fact that the Club wholeheartedly supports the efforts of the Football Association, the Football League and the Premier League to put an end to any form of racism in English football.

    It is time to put the Luis Suarez matter to rest and for all of us, going forward, to work together to stamp out racism in every form both inside and outside the sport.

    It is for this reason that we will not appeal the eight-game suspension of Luis Suarez.
     
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  16. BiasedOpinion

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    Can I ask why the FA would want Suarez banned for so long? Why do you think they have this agenda against Liverpool?
     
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  17. Sir_Red

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    Yup. We've come out looking like chumps. We should have appealed as we were going to.
     
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  18. BCR

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    Regardless of what you think of the decision, at least it has been put to rest now, just live and let lie.......although his first game back might be United away, supercharged that will be!
     
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  19. luvgonzo

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    Statement from Luis Suarez

    First of all I would like to thank everyone so much for all the help and support I have received during these last few weeks.

    Thank you to my family, my friends and everybody at LFC (the staff, manager and coaching staff, the directors, my team mates and everyone who is working on a daily basis for this great club) and thank you especially to all the fans who made sure I never felt let down for one second. During those days I understood more than ever what 'You'll Never Walk Alone' means.

    Like many of you I was born into a very humble family, in a working class neighbourhood, in a small country. But I was born and raised learning what respect, manners and sacrifice mean. Thanks to my family, from my first club where I started playing, to my transfer to Holland in Europe, I learned the values which made me the person I am now. Never, I repeat, never, have I had any racial problem with a team mate or individual who was of a different race or colour to mine. Never.

    I am very upset by all the things which have been said during the last few weeks about me, all of them being very far from the truth. But above all, I'm very upset at feeling so powerless whilst being accused of something which I did not, nor would not, ever do.

    In my country, 'negro' is a word we use commonly, a word which doesn't show any lack of respect and is even less so a form of racist abuse. Based on this, everything which has been said so far is totally false.

    I will carry out the suspension with the resignation of someone who hasn't done anything wrong and who feels extremely upset by the events. I do feel sorry for the fans and for my team mates whom I will not be able to help during the next month. It will be a very difficult time for me.

    The only thing I wish for at the moment is being able to run out again at Anfield and to do what I like most which is playing football.

    Thank you very much.

    YNWA
     
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  20. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    **** that, if it is highly subjective LFC should of taken a stand but unfortunately it's over....until the next case, this will not be the last time we hear about this type of accusation i'm afraid....I fear that the FA may have opened a can of worms here...
     
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