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Suarez banned from ALL football for 4 months

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Eamon Holmes, Jun 26, 2014.

  1. Eamon Holmes

    Eamon Holmes Well-Known Member

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    Isn't it 13 games? Nine in the league, three in the Champions league and one in the Carling cup.
     
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  2. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    Apparently he tried the same thing with the same player in the Confederations Cup last year but didn't 'connect', he tries to rile the opponent into retaliation resulting in a penalty and red card...
     
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  3. rangercol

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    Very lenient!!
     
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  4. Rangers Til I Die

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    This is the key point.

    He was at work and bit a 'colleague' in the process of doing his work.

    Any of us doing the same would lose our jobs, our good references and our future income.

    Emotionally, I must be honest, I felt it was slightly harsh (probably I am a softie at heart) but looking at it objectively in the context of employment, he has received a light punishment.
     
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  5. Totallyqpr

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    The man has a serious problem, but the worst thing is that afterwards, when he has had time to think, he lies through his teeth (pun intended) and denies doing anything wrong. If he had said that he was sorry and will seek help and tried to explain that he can't help himself, most people would feel sorry for him (not much though) and try to understand why. But the lies and denials just make him look like a pathetic tosser.
     
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  6. Eamon Holmes

    Eamon Holmes Well-Known Member

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    Now we have the Uruguayans (including his grandmother!) claiming that it is all a set up to get him out of the World Cup.

    Granny even went so far as to say that he has been treated like a dog. I beg to differ. If you were bitten by a dog the animal would be put down!
     
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  7. West London Willy

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  8. Swords Hoopster.

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    I don't think that argument is applicable to be honest mate. If that rationale is applied to all footballers, then anyone who injures a "work colleague" in a tackle should be kicked out of football, meaning we'd have no footballers left in a couple of years. Imagine applying it to Rugby....................or Boxing!!

    I think the reaction has been way OTT and I've given a possible explanation for it which no-one agrees with but that's fair enough. Yes spitting and biting, whilst not particularly physically injurious to the victim, are both rightly regarded as obscene and slightly savage behaviour but lets not get carried away either. Would you prefer a slight nick on the shoulder like the Italian defender received or a broken nose or gashed face from a cheeky elbow? Or an injured ankle or worst of all, a broken leg from a vicious challenge? I'd take the little mark on the shoulder every day, thank you very much.

    I actually have an inkling that he's not a bad guy at all, just a bit of a header in these moments of madness. He was brought up in poverty on the streets I believe and there's still a bit of that rawness in him. He probably can't even understand what all the fuss is about right now, just like he couldn't understand the outrage at his racial name calling of Patrice Evra. I can't be certain because I don't know enough about his background but I would say he has a similar mindset to that of say, the travelling community or the Roma itinerants here. I think he inhabited a different World to what we're accustomed and that has to be taken into account.

    The punishment is severe but appropriate because of previous incidents. I hope he comes back and continues to perform for all our sakes. It would be a loss to the Premier League and soccer in general if this resulted in ruining his football career.
     
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  9. DT Footspa

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    Agree what do you make of the UK spin against this player as it's the same old Bulldogs barking about the fuzzywuzzies to me
     
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  10. Rangers Til I Die

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    That not quite correct IMO. A footballer knows he has a chance of breaking a leg; a boxer knows he runs a risk of being knocked out or rarely of serious brain damage. Those are within the understood and mutually accepted risks of the sport. Biting is not.

    I do wonder whether we are going to see some movement on the ban in the appeals. It works well for FIFA if they hand out a severe punishment then appear to be merciful in the light of the appeal and 'fresh evidence'. That fresh evidence will be Suarez stating that the video of him rolling around holding his teeth is evidence that there was a painful collision rather than a bite. That's how I'd play it if I was him.

    EDIT. Meant to say that I agree that he is not a bad man as such but certainly has some sort of problem that needs fixing.
     
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  11. Flyer

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    Ive had elbows aimed at me and people try to break my legs and Ive done it back to them, I even had a full on punch up during a game.

    Theres someone gutless and sneaky about running up behind someone and biting them (which can lead to all sorts of serious stuff) and spitting.
    Both of those would lead me to going full on nuts to them and I wouldnt care about the ban.

    FIFA have said the ban stands, only the fine can be appealed.
     
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  12. Swords Hoopster.

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    I shouldn't have said Boxing because it negated the valid point I made. My bad.

    But again, if you got a cheeky elbow and gashed in the face by a player or got injured from a tackle with intent to hurt, that's much worse than a small nick on the shoulder. Comparing a normal job to football is not possible. You'd hardly go into the office on Monday morning and leap at your boss with your boots first and bust his leg, perhaps even breaking it. That happens regularly in soccer and its against the rules to try and injure another player. I've seen worse off the ball stuff in the last season than Suarez' little mark on the Italian's shoulder but this is what's making all the headlines, rightly or wrongly, because it was a bite.

    The spin is very apparent but I don't think there's anything racial in it. Rather its a result of what he did to England a week ago and perhaps his peculiar celebrations when he scored. I did wonder at the time why he was seemingly so emotional. Was it simply because he scored a couple of vital goals for his Country or was it because of the opposition? If it was the latter then I can understand why the English fans and press would stick the boot into him now, which most of them are with relish.

    But I am certain of one thing. Had England not been in Uruguay's group and not been practically knocked out of the World Cup by Suarez himself, the reaction to this incident would have been more muted.
     
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  13. Uber_Hoop

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    All this stuff about spin, what Suarez did to England, bulldogs and 'fuzzy wuzzies' is frankly a load of old spherical objects.

    The reaction here is nothing to do with his two goals against England, but I think more because we 'know' him over here, he has plenty of previous and has failed to learn his lesson, I believe there is still a British sense of fair play in evidence too. We don't mind losing to moments of brilliance, nor are we reticent in criticising our own team's poor performances. We like a loser, but a plucky one...and we like a winner, but a sporting one. This is why we hate diving, elbowing, spitting, biting and the like. Like Maradona 28 years ago, we applaud the Suarez's brilliance...but we hated the cheating Argentinian for his infamous 'Hand of God' bullshit, just as we despair at Chewy Luis for his stupid thuggishness.
     
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  14. Swords Hoopster.

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    Ballix Ubes. Maradona was against England. Why would a player doing something in a game with Italy bring up such vitriol?

    As for "British sense of fair play", you've kind of given Oddball a bit of rope there to hang you with.
     
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  15. Hoops Eternal

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    Far too lenient in my opinion, third ban for same offence, should have been much longer.
    What really goes up my nostrils is the ex Liverpool players bleating that it's unfair on Liverpool as it happened while playing for Uruguay, well correct me if I'm wrong but Suarez is a Liverpool player so deal with it.
    Suarez though needs professional help as a 27 year old biting people is not the actions of a sane person!
     
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  16. Uber_Hoop

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    I suggest you read what I wrote more carefully, Travis. Do you really believe many are appalled because he scored two goals against a dreadful England side that got everything it deserved? I know you have a jaundiced view about the British, or should that specifically be the English?, but I'm surprised you'd add shallow pettiness to our list of crimes.

    I look forward to Oddball approaching me with his metaphorical noose. I may need an interpreter to let me know when he's actually achieved this feat, though.
     
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  17. Swords Hoopster.

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    That's unfair. I said above that I totally understand why you'd be pissed off given the nature of his "celebrations". I think Britain and England in particular is one of the best nations on earth and is my favourite Country besides my own. I don't think it would be pettiness anyway, just a natural reaction. The same would happen in every other Country bar none.

    Its just an observation of the medias and fans reaction to the incident which I believe to be very much over the top. Obviously I could be totally wrong but its just an opinion Uber lad. :smile:
     
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  18. Uber_Hoop

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    I think there has been a rich gamut of reactions to Chewy Luis, ranging from rabid hysteria, through measured outrage and general nonchalance, to the great British sense of humour about the whole thing.
     
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  19. Sooperhoop

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    I think this whole Suarez saga has perfectly detracted attention from our team's underperformance. The British press love a villain, especially a foreign one, and Suarez has giving our hacks a wet-dream opportunity to vent their critical spleens. The whole reaction has been way over the top and Hodgson must be thanking his lucky stars it happened at the same time as we were stuttering to a bore-draw finale.

    I think FIFA got the 'sentence' spot-on, tough enough to send an unequivocal message that he's in the last-chance saloon but fair in that he has four months to reflect on his stupidity and get professional help. I somehow don't see him playing in the Premier League again as I think Liverpool will accept any £40-50 million bid while he still has a bit of value left...
     
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