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Strong rumours about Defoe retiring with immediate affect....

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Teessidemackem, Mar 22, 2022.

  1. Draig

    Draig Well-Known Member

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    Mentioned this to one of my mates. His response? 'I thought he had already retired when he went to Sunderland!'

    Manc barsteward :emoticon-0130-devil
     
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    All very fair mate. Have to say I wasnt in the camp of thinking Defoe would be enough, quite the opposite. Not a told you so, and I still hope to be proven wrong. I do though suspect most head coaches wouldnt have put all their eggs in that basket. Everything said about Johnsons departure hints at disagreements with those paying his wages. I didnt see any evidence of him and the players falling out personally, not saying it didnt happen, but I dont think anything like that showed on the pitch. If anything Johnson protected them too much I think. He certainly could have rotated youngsters more, and I do think some played too much football and we signed players that had played non.

    Agree there is no guarantee we would have more points if Neil was in for those 2 games, or if Johnson was kept in. I do think it is highly likely though and I think it was 2 games the hierarchy took far too lightly and assumed players could just turn up and win without leadership and direction. Almost like they were thinking it was a game on a park where strongest 11 players on paper wins. You are right though, I shouldnt just point to those 2 games. Under Johnson we threw silly points away when we should have seen games out and under Neil we have dropped points we should not have. It is an accumulation, but I still cant help thinking other clubs wouldnt have allowed themselves be in that position for 2 games.
     
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  3. Yep,good points mate.
     
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  4. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    Good points marra and I can sense the fine lines between success and failure. Still worried if Stewart picks up an injury between now and the end of the season.
     
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  5. Yes,me too. I've been called out on here about our players being selected for Internationals, but, if he comes back from Scotland with a knock,....****ing livid!
     
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    [QUOTE="sad-eyed prophet, post: 15719231, member: 1048454Yes,me too. I've been called out on here about our players being selected for Internationals, but, if he comes back from Scotland with a knock,....****ing livid![/QUOTE]
    Fletcher was never the same again for us after being injured playing for Scotland , took up POLO ing <laugh> when he came back ,
     
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  7. Fletcher was never the same again for us after being injured playing for Scotland , took up POLO ing <laugh> when he came back ,[/QUOTE]

    Exactly.....Arby another example.
     
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  8. Robertson

    Robertson Well-Known Member

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    Kenwynne Jones as well. Got crocked by David James if I remember right.
     
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    Craig Gordon aswell! Never did come back for us did he?
     
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  11. Prehab26

    Prehab26 Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't train much at all. Maybe 1_2 sessions a week. I mean it's not uncommon for older players to train less.
     
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    FTM Dave Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't Stefan Shcwarz out for ages too, or did I just dream that?

    Whatever, although I'm pleased for the players of course, I'd prefer none of our players got international call-ups.
     
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  13. smithy in nl

    smithy in nl Well-Known Member

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    stewarts interview says otherwise, says he’s brilliant in training and teaching him loads.
     
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  15. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    Yep...

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    Top bloke
     
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  17. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    Love the reference to God
     
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  18. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    I hope he stays around in some sort of coaching capacity
     
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  19. Southern A

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    No statements from the club and a copy and paste from Jermain’s statement. One would speculate this isn’t amicable but we are pretending it is.
     
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  20. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    he’s been on sky lots recently.

    I reckon he’s seen how much they’re paying him for one off fees and weighed it up against the benefits he’s getting being third choice here and made his decision
     
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